From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2041: 23.0.60; strange behaviour of Emacs.app with -q Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:01:26 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506352950 6373 195.159.176.226 (25 Sep 2017 15:22:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:22:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (darwin) Cc: 2041@debbugs.gnu.org To: Peter Dyballa Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 25 17:22:23 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwVDC-00018u-F3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:22:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43006 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwVDJ-0003TH-TM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:22:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwUtd-0004Dm-Gh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:02:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwUtX-0006Gp-C9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:02:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:49911) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwUtX-0006Gl-7d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwUtW-00058z-UF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Third Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2041 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2041-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2041.150635169718640 (code B ref 2041); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2041) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2017 15:01:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58587 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwUt7-0004qG-CB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:01:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:45409) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwUt4-0004jL-HS for 2041@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:01:34 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-f49.google.com with SMTP id q124so20580300wmb.0 for <2041@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:01:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=xfo7IGKxOUIvDNh0pcmdjovpuTVaMuY6zt6LOP30MEg=; b=VxIsNCdVGqxaOq05Z7l+p2Xf2wf+pAsx/dZxcPJznpNrU+0vSDgzXPodeqOyWMigh7 +DVxg0TCjEPR8q//mSXymya4P2pMhTUUlG3Vu+vx1GHM9qA9M1XP8BCLbxaUt+jkCQgz 41I66EKjxfFycJFpRQ9D9QIaKmd9p5Dsx2BSH/ZVn6nj9civgj97ocfOfA/F8vIWihxt B1ax3z9zbMaPXAfbKfJnKk/2fILfeqxwCcrkszfngv8s+IlhpnFw0/wmhCO9tDc9UN4J etPl8DPP6H6Fxpa/2Df6r5KoCV4O1UxQ8B6D4WiWmK6u6h9Xa4XKNj2Gl/eUv4u4Rkc2 3pFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=xfo7IGKxOUIvDNh0pcmdjovpuTVaMuY6zt6LOP30MEg=; b=pzZm1XEFCrPR3Kh1YnMdQKQ7E6sWFo+EsDOOjd8A1233eojgR2UVfc/BevhbTOabH9 voSi4IyA3Vbk8u5ZdYwZ2LQPGr5YD8vH2r/NrRvmJ72XaZ4aaanzLrkNBmhzb95cIbh2 kHpPkgAR9nSu2QYIc5B7CHtO7/Czt4qlXl3wyW8oUK/gSChnwJjz4smmj6/Amhbv5B1T n+H3FzIP+xR60k+C2OtAblgf6s+SzJ0PQSVuGw47LGhPC68tcoZ3mlT/8HVqACv+oRYD mDz0Mds9qlhqz1StOdPKbJRI9oT4ug56hQaQBuRjovf2gBcaTJ0yuikclppGSDxPNMWJ s25Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUhvhDtolNPVQWz2ATm7OVGReMcXx7YB3tQ4SofbFFZaf7ZVROuN iPI1m/zA7O0N2GkaDVi/+0eUrki+50A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QAbTE/ZGmREYF1Z5xWny+Kk4xDU2CETS1FP4bh2AFK9e1kQS8RrxwsF9yDB/JhRvZQwCDyddg== X-Received: by 10.28.29.129 with SMTP id d123mr608894wmd.130.1506351688378; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from breton.holly.idiocy.org (ip6-2001-08b0-03f8-8129-b188-2706-1206-0eea.holly.idiocy.org. [2001:8b0:3f8:8129:b188:2706:1206:eea]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4sm2185042wmz.33.2017.09.25.08.01.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:01:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Peter Dyballa's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:49:56 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:137412 Archived-At: Peter Dyballa writes: > When I launch Emacs.app as 'nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs - > q --debug-init &' it shows a somehow regular behaviour, positioning > the initial frame at (0,0) and having an opaque frame with white > background. When I remove ~/.emacs and launch GNU Emacs as > 'nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs --debug-init &' (no -q needed > since I don't have a user-init-file, not even default.el or > ~/.emacs.d/init) it shows an irregular behaviour, positioning the > initial frame with a particular size and a font at a point given wich > are all given by initial-frame-alist, and having a completely > transparent frame with not existing background: when I click at it I > select the application behind it, even when I pick a text. Hi, I know sorry nobody's got back to you about this before now. I can't replicate the bug so I think it's probably been fixed. Are you still able to replicate it? -- Alan Third