From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sascha Wilde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: set-locale-environement: strange default detection Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:21:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: <85ejj5xv4x.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184833149 23658 80.91.229.12 (19 Jul 2007 08:19:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thomas Arendsen Hein , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 19 10:19:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IBRE3-00061E-Ba for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:19:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBRE2-0003cC-F7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:19:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IBRDz-0003c7-HY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:19:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IBRDx-0003bv-PE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:19:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBRDx-0003bs-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:19:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ns.km1136.keymachine.de ([62.141.58.119] helo=km1136.keymachine.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IBRDv-0007QR-RX; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:19:00 -0400 Original-Received: from kenny.sha-bang.de (xdslm212.osnanet.de [212.95.112.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by km1136.keymachine.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l6J8Itmr016360; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:18:55 +0200 Original-Received: from wilde by kenny.sha-bang.de with local (Kenny MUA v.0409034.42) ID 1IBRFu-0004rB-36; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:21:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <85ejj5xv4x.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Wed\, 18 Jul 2007 23\:24\:46 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75113 Archived-At: David Kastrup wrote: > Reiner Steib writes: > >> On Wed, Jul 18 2007, Sascha Wilde wrote: >> >>> LANG=en_US >>> LC_CTYPE=de_DE@euro >> [...] >>> so it should be clear, that, also he wants to be able to handle German >>> texts properly, he wants his user interfaces in English. >> >> JFTR, I reported the same problem before: >> >> ,----[ http://thread.gmane.org/E1Gn4h0-00057g-Uh%40fencepost.gnu.org ] >> | From: Reiner Steib >> | To: emacs-pretest-bug gnu.org >> | Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:36:52 +0100 >> | Subject: language environment should not be derived from LC_CTYPE >> `---- > > That is not the same problem. "language-environment" entails much > more than "which language should the computer pick for talking to the > human?". s/much more/something different/ > LC_CTYPE should definitely determine the preferred encodings. I agree. But then language-environment definitely shouldn't be used to determine the language for documentation/ui/anythinglikethat... So, what about the idea I sketched in my patch? sascha -- Sascha Wilde : "There are 10 types of people in the world. : Those who understand binary and those who don't."