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From: Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Cc: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Attributes on HTML tables?
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 23:09:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ip3wybka.fsf@christianmoe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mwtavzgv.fsf@gmail.com>


Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Does every possible attribute follow attribute="value" pattern? Aren't
> there single keywords? 

In XHTML it does, and there aren't. In HTML you can use some "minimized"
attributes, but in XHTML they have their own names as values,
e.g. nowrap="nowrap".

> If they are that regular, we can indeed walk the
> plist like a list and change
>
>   (:key1 val1 :key2 val2 ...)
>
> into
>
>   key1="val1" key2="val2"

...and let the user worry about getting them right. That's my
suggestion, FWIW.

> If there are irregular keywords, the export back-end needs to know about
> them.

XML doesn't do `irregular'. :)

XHTML is also fussy about quoting attribute values, and about escaping
special characters as HTML entities, including the ampersand (&), and
including inside attribute values. I'm guessing the exporter already
does the right thing here.

Since values may legitimately contain double quotes, one thing the
back-end *does* need to know about is to put those in single quotes:

 :title This is a "pop-up" text

  title='This is a "pop-up" text'

> Also, if attributes are provided, I assume defaults should be ignored
> altogether. Or do we need to create the union between default values and
> provided attributes?

If I understand the question correctly, I think the union is the correct
answer, with provided attributes overwriting defaults for the same
attributes.

In the example we started with, the defaults would create

  <table border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="6" rules="groups"
  frame="hsides">

If the user specifies

  #+attr_html: :border 2 :rules all :frame border :title My table

I would expect the result

  <table border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="6" rules="all"
  frame="border" title="My table">

You may want a second opinion on all this -- I'm no (X)HTML guru and
I've never written an exporter. But it seems to me the pure plist form
would less confusing to the user than a split syntax, and easier to
maintain, as well.

Yours,
Christian

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-08 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-07  2:55 Attributes on HTML tables? François Pinard
2013-04-07  6:27 ` Bastien
2013-04-07 14:42   ` Christian Moe
2013-04-07 18:46     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-07 20:39       ` Christian Moe
2013-04-07 20:48         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-08 21:09           ` Christian Moe [this message]
2013-04-10 17:44             ` François Pinard
2013-04-12  2:06               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-04-12  5:42                 ` Bastien
2013-04-12  6:01                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-04-12  8:46                     ` Bastien
2013-04-12 14:36                       ` François Pinard
2013-04-13  3:38                         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-04-13  5:31                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-04-13 20:42                             ` Rick Frankel
2013-04-14 10:13                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-04-14 18:01                                 ` Rick Frankel
2013-04-15 18:03                                 ` Rick Frankel
2013-04-13 17:10                 ` Rick Frankel
2013-04-14  8:41                   ` Bastien
2013-04-10 19:37             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-11  8:28               ` Christian Moe
2013-04-11 10:55                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-11 12:14                   ` Christian Moe
2013-04-11 15:34                   ` Bastien
2013-04-11 17:29                     ` Nicolas Goaziou

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