From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21998: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? 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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b2sm19885990pfd.24.2016.03.06.16.15.38 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:15:39 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: John Wiegley Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1AA0D13428170; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:15:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <64a52598-ad53-498c-993c-67d7827dbdfc@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 6 Mar 2016 15:06:36 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Drew Adams , Emacs developers , 21998@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , Richard Stallman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:114521 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Drew Adams writes: > Maybe see this thread? > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-03/msg00904.html I respect that Richard may use them in a constructive way, but he's no long= er doing the majority of the work on Emacs, and I want to choose the path that works for the core developers, and will make Emacs more welcoming to new contributors. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJW3MgSAAoJEMFE2PTxn+YwFTwL/A7ocGvAlBjyrz+pF/cXAed4 f/f0w4LuKNkt/nB99uF289TKIuhV6lIvbt0hPR6Hjn1uhVD+XK7yds9BGz6DQkG3 8n6VTYk4XyWn88/7O4JJ6KadQ7wota3PQurkGlczR8QeYAG3IjwSvfoloTKxGbkK GdiWiLJQYBOWkHKueYEUgJg7EMSYxTsXaZQTB704qrao71XnSVmtultE7cBk5q7p vLTlkmy3QvBEJtJXA3Rvbn2TONMIWadp8VAUUVM87xEYOlOGVkn2e41A6gZQsObC dbQjo9xgVSsyGS5hW69i6BlOpIQbGWcXqxRH1q1sgOURPPPQ8gY1NIZK+5HTkO/2 5y/K6yKrFxH33ufy16QVgSilooV7NhoYVa5jdv7mRI9VHMLkEZ0Kl2izFpmoGfST yfvqWdHAbNUn1eOigdwW+WVXI0iRuv1IY9dQ1iG7JEaLtJUxiXTyc16yzjSNgOVM dxl+VYbznF18SE4lSQIXhuxeig5yq1vsicBGvi43kQ== =t79+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--