From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Filipp Gunbin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: About curly quotes (again) [Was: Emacs 26.1 release branch created] Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:30:16 +0300 Message-ID: References: <83377mls4d.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919173511.GA19168@ACM> <83bmm6h8vr.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919180944.GB19168@ACM> <838thah71i.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919194356.GC19168@ACM> <20170919210925.GF19168@ACM> <83vakdg9d2.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506015077 25667 195.159.176.226 (21 Sep 2017 17:31:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:31:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (darwin) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 21 19:31:14 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dv5Jf-0006KY-6F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:31:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54880 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv5Jl-0002wJ-0v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:31:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47586) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv5It-0002v4-V0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:30:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv5Ir-0003gD-5t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:30:23 -0400 Original-Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:42485) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv5Ir-0003e4-1w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:30:21 -0400 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D8320EB0 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:30:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=IWk4NRPfDmqu9smU3/MZc+dF7k7/OzpWiAiD1zBM/ 1A=; b=BOIXAfJEnVIBg/wXqxQzsLtvPVkRHGkDfP2HXmfVb+Esetpf/eDxweWkp VPYKsW+hba6Khxr49+hmji9RXWcIorpQ3ZzGGYWLF2De85b5vX+kp/wssxFP6ziN cOX5vv4VhAOmsYsaD0xtmt28pcSPuhpXHsxwq9eC3mje/SudkHdJyQAAhkxYyqeX VryHkNszoMFyJ8/lXR/7V3EdE1IALJEd20mAjDXzFNIXZZnY6gMeQdNSzh0hR4bH yg9A02D76YPJhfQdURpgmIYaZSroznQGSirzBAZSeP7ZtXWCxbF1E3U7mzr1u2p2 wOcOTu0VzOxs//IY0G8/1kTGDVMzg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=IWk4NRPfDmqu9smU3/ MZc+dF7k7/OzpWiAiD1zBM/1A=; b=NdWOP0Cz8RLQmA8oC6SY0AK/K1Dwzvk/vj ulFtfGQZ8/2LAOG3oy2TdKP+AT/1vcHMF9i38OLa5HhKxQJn7yaw8MAARoVFsDgu wgVqioqj7H0zYLggcux09tppBsCFkoRXtrEJ3pstgkOLR6+LTdUrqHXFZ+5xahUK YaDkgMuXFvdSa8cPNbNa2QoNduIl3EyIeHVBiL89eS+c1u3rxC+s9FypAPEnVMjj ugtnpgc6dSEqKf1+oS2/uZyRRgSDU8pzZfGk+mLsbAx1RYwhR2zODG7vX/oVblmo 5E21oovxpw2mhRYd0tcerYNKhZKQLVqmJiWpMBMMA71c5kT70KPA== X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: V2N6Uoo2Oog4soZSGPU8TYNHxvJXFkFv0NvSE9n/Wanl 1506015018 Original-Received: from fgunbin.local (unknown [93.185.27.56]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3E56F7E675 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:30:18 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:45:39 -0700") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218639 Archived-At: On 20/09/2017 07:45 -0700, John Wiegley wrote: > Reading back on the message thread, I now think more strongly that it should > be a defcustom in 26.1. I don't see why we'd want to remove that defcustom > after providing it, which I believe was your main concern. Enough non-curly > users want it (just on this list), and it seems odd that it's not there. I think there are a lot of users even here, who just silently dislike curly quotes and do not want to create noise posting about it (which I'm doing right now). So +1 for defcustom. Filipp