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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>,
	 yantar92@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	 eller.helmut@gmail.com
Subject: Re: MPS: User GC customizations
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 19:01:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ikxlxf9s.fsf@pro2.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86bk3d87od.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2024 19:04:50 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>
>> I'm really confused. Can you explain what you think the difference
>> is?

FWIW, I'm also confused.

> I just did, twice.  If that still doesn't explain it, then I guess my
> explanatory talents betray me, and I don't know what else to say.
>
>> The variable's value is a number. If the variable is zero, we don't
>> tell MPS we're idle when we're idle. If it's nonzero, we tell it
>> we're idle (when we are), and how much time it's okay to spend in GC.
>
> The number can only tell one thing, not two.  AFAIU, it tells the
> latter: "how much time it's okay to spend in GC" once GC started due
> to idleness (and not some other reason).  Gerd said something
> different: that this number "gives MPS notice" that Emacs is idle.
> (How can a number "give notice" I don't understand even in principle.)

By saying that 0 has a special meaning.

The "once GC started due to idleness" confuses me. We don't "start" GC
due to idleness. We allow MPS to do something concurrently, say one or
more increments in the sense of its incremental GC algorithm. And "GC
runs" all the time.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-04 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-01  9:26 MPS: Crash when switching to buffer Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-01 12:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-01 12:13   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-01 12:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-01 14:14   ` Pip Cet
2024-07-01 14:42     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02  0:22       ` Pip Cet
2024-07-02  4:04         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 11:40         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 10:31           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 11:48             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 12:02               ` MPS: User GC customizations (was: MPS: Crash when switching to buffer) Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 12:51                 ` MPS: User GC customizations Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 13:20                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 14:45                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 15:12                       ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 16:07                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 16:38                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 17:02                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 17:53                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 18:18                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 18:28                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 18:32                                 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 18:43                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 18:39                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 18:48                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 13:58                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 14:30                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 15:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 15:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 15:52                         ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 16:04                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 17:01                             ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2024-07-04 18:03                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 18:28                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 18:43                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 19:09                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 19:12                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 16:38                     ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 17:06                       ` Gerd Möllmann

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