From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Recommend an email index tool for Emacs? 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(2007-01-02 10:22 +1100) said: ^^^^^^ > Leo writes: > >> Hi Xavier, >> >> * Xavier Maillard (2006-12-31 13:29 +0100) said: >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> It really depends on what tool you are using to read your emails. >> >> Those emails are in Gnus nnml format. >> >> But I really don't understand why an index tool should have knowledge >> about the MUA. Email is a standard format, right? >> > > SMTP/ESTMP are standardised, but therre are a number of variations in > how your MUA will store restored files - mbox and mdirs are probably > the most common, but different mail readers often "enhance" or > slightly modify the format. For example, emacs VM has a slightly > modified mbox format, mh-e (mh) is a bit different to maildirs, I > can't remember what rmail's format is. Consequently, if your mail > indexing tool is going to be smarter than just a basic grep, it needs > to understand the format and be able to distinguish different > messages, body and header and hopefully know how to display the > message appropriately when you want to look at the results from a > search (i.e. know how to tell your MUA to retrieve a specific message > rather than just open a large mbox etc). > > Tim Thanks, Tim. -- Leo (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)