From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Martyn Jago Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Evil defvars in org.el Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 23:48:26 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87k411g8xa.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1336517336 28371 80.91.229.3 (8 May 2012 22:48:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 22:48:56 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 09 00:48:55 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SRtDC-0001vX-8K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 May 2012 00:48:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59992 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRtDB-0007MB-N2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:48:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50971) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRtD9-0007Lt-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:48:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRtD7-0002Ug-CF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:48:50 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRtD7-0002SB-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:48:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SRtD3-0001tT-Ma for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 May 2012 00:48:45 +0200 Original-Received: from 88-96-171-142.dsl.zen.co.uk ([88.96.171.142]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 May 2012 00:48:45 +0200 Original-Received: from martyn.jago by 88-96-171-142.dsl.zen.co.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 May 2012 00:48:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88-96-171-142.dsl.zen.co.uk User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pLV6BH8JQZ8ktueC+oalw02ZazA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150379 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > org.el (and org-agenda.el, and maybe others) have defvars like this: > > (defvar entry) > (defvar date) > > This is going to blow up in someone's face, because it makes `entry' and > `date' unusable as lexical variables, even though those are very common > variable names. That is to say, loading Org mode would change the > behavior of packages using lexical binding in some unpredictable way. > > Why does org need to do this? Could you try to clean it up? Perhaps Emacs can prefix the `evil vars' and alias them to the original, with a deprecation warning? Best, Martyn