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From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Package initialization
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:33:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2h9oyokl7.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv8uabpu5d.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:11:47 -0400")

On Sun, Jul 19 2015, Stefan Monnier wrote:

> Since it's a configuration choice, it should not be imposed by the
> autoloads file.  Instead, the way this is normally handled is by making
> a slime-minor-mode, which when enabled does something like
> (slime-setup), and when disabled, undoes it.

SLIME is already a minor mode; I think if we can make it work if users
call (add-hook 'lisp-mode-hook 'slime-mode) in their .emacs.

> The important aspect is that it should be possible to install a package
> without using it, so the autoloads file should only set things up so
> that they *can* be used, but not so that they're automatically used
> without being explicitly requested.

I think that's quite an important guideline that should be stated a bit
more prominently in manual.

It also seems to me that there is a certain conflict between what you
say and this from the manual:

  These autoload definitions are saved to a file named
  ‘NAME-autoloads.el’ in the content directory.  They are typically used
  to autoload the principal user commands defined in the package, but
  they can also perform other tasks, such as adding an element to
  ‘auto-mode-alist’.

Helmut



  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-20 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-18 15:56 Package initialization Helmut Eller
2015-07-18 17:16 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-18 19:00   ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-18 19:20     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-18 22:56       ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-18 23:07         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-18 23:29           ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-18 23:48             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19  0:13             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-07-19  7:23               ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19  8:10                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19  9:58                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 10:07                     ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 10:11                       ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 10:27                         ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 10:33                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 10:38                             ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 10:41                               ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 10:51                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 10:11                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19 10:14                       ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 10:35                         ` bruce.connor.am
2015-07-19 10:48                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 11:35                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19 10:54                           ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 11:34                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19 12:09                               ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 12:33                                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19 16:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-19 15:52                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-07-19 16:37                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-20  1:30                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-07-20 17:01                       ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-20 17:25                         ` Chad Brown
2015-07-20 18:12                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-20 19:09                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-20 20:54                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-21  5:59                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-07-21  6:40                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-25  4:42                             ` Alexis
2015-07-19 16:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-20  0:11             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-07-20 16:33               ` Helmut Eller [this message]
2015-07-20 22:25                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-07-21  5:53                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-07-21  6:45                     ` David Kastrup
2015-07-21  6:05                   ` Helmut Eller

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