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[76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m11sm11272748pfi.30.2016.10.07.00.49.43 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Oct 2016 00:49:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id D92452D0CDD4; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:49:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83eg3sk5xr.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 07 Oct 2016 09:51:28 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:124149 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > However, my objections were evidently not enough to revert back, although > you agreed with me: > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D22202#118 Thanks for the references. Let's revert this change for 25.2 until the stat= ed problem (entropy exhaustion) becomes a real problem, i.e. reported by a use= r. There is no reason to make everyone pay a 1/2 second startup cost for a theoretical problem, or a code simplification whose benefits are so minor. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJX91ORAAoJEMFE2PTxn+Ywj1IMAIqy4uCefd1N99+adLbNSImD 5OFKwBLcnTeREKDPC/MgxFH28d1WRgJQA51t+1nqVDJca2VfAPuC/z+oauvrVh5W spobitIRxoVB7sBtUl34jo/ZY1jONbXzDx3QF94zE4rCUPslZKnYfZV5mwp3IQTr LO2uGt76/Suh2kDHSOhj1EXOIxK1HHcqvWx2tD5Wa93ZWmCAiPwjEk1Mfviibnbo sP/uypCiqG/3/2jphsu4/h7TljQ1ORJxskK03TKWgZmwB5xD6BnGrqyHDlNN8bpn MTfYsSXBeU/erMLNGDLJ3A8n7lJLqH8HJCTwj97zeUPrTdYIZsugKqEQ8PKbS2w1 aPfUvXcfC8JfxjoOoiUYZhmXlhHdH/cNPLhHXF0PKFwuaTfPcTTK3IWaLhEbQKae Pf7cU9j2VQr9Xpck8Nr3ZDxJuJ0WeF2bLLDlywGmcbRhNrOYe2T+xUR8i6kJzm6I N/7o3vdj/r1QEWHZHhRSaGsmeXbShi8qxnsWoEIsVg== =2alV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--