From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 26.1 release branch created Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 16:16:19 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20170921205447.GA8240@ACM> <83tvzvcidg.fsf@gnu.org> <20170922184159.GB7229@ACM> <20170922193511.GC7229@ACM> <20170922220700.GD7229@ACM> <20170924143939.GC5725@ACM> <20170924194139.GA6793@ACM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506295516 22237 195.159.176.226 (24 Sep 2017 23:25:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 23:25:16 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130016 (Ma Gnus v0.16) Emacs/26.0 (darwin) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 25 01:25:09 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwGGr-0005Cd-2S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 01:25:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39864 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwGGw-0008Ib-Tp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 19:25:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36708) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwGGn-0008Hj-S4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 19:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwGGm-0005GV-V0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 19:25:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c05::22d]:46442) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwGGj-0005E2-Bw; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 19:25:01 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id i130so3032082pgc.3; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 16:25:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=vx1l9lRfAjoPXrxdUEfgKiQI5rAK7nxfm3YsXZ6Zl2s=; b=ePTD1IMLbxIoXEv4f6YstP7D0K/KGsvl3ozioUjDaYjEyzs1/hY1ahbVhmNGI334Rw tfp5oa9dVPGgi8E/q1uk1XqBrIInwQW7W3wj1+BYAWGUp10HzzkuMPxaGSTsxVv0ZsgW q7zwz6/4Ccy+X+dkC4YmAmO1g8t+tmGUKNZbT/8QK4cUsA+HCalrfTa9mFKY43oBqmlf 5UYMpTQiMoz8qlynsCZfJ4GS+xBtFj0jjSKygNBehmf+je9uBCOGvCUJLhH4NvwZTfDi uC1+sKE6EDwjxVTC8y+XB/KM8fDtC7lNePn6CFm7W4ztdF3UIeYbSHaLcYXh0GyuVc+L wsVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=vx1l9lRfAjoPXrxdUEfgKiQI5rAK7nxfm3YsXZ6Zl2s=; b=niUT7xUz8OgjqbCK9WqjRefqxaV2mK2gCIlFKxcwEhkXiZE9BuUvmjneLYsgi/bddK I3ibBJ247HKaTYqVciOgqMcdNE7YQqeN9Jgty4CSJMxeLjP7wVX3T3JcySsL5QN0PfnT lrsv2H1oQRNYMKS+kmDIc9O2Hs2mtw0NbjhLKYF26HDR25+64Kt5o+be/wJjW5y6lk54 jkhm8YWtrnlZQ7xpDqFNr7fadMBHO36Ljrk5IemwMIvy+mOuaAlQn5GtZzisYd+ziV61 zuMdUruI8V1RJdJoRC6TyHA6Zuew/+8jo3TiJyHHPrDgNSlN7K4dJLJm1xGcgHvdbvYw GfFw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUiKKPmOcCXywMcev0SMdU5T4eU6vHbgPTsTZiptpytDxjOtPoT/ pSu2vfFuQ76hhjjX3T4Cfyg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCpnR3eVcI8pkJEaT8+ByyBaYs3FOe7WNh0Gqcgm/b/poBq1JkFL45c2rlXM3wUbKgrWz9E8g== X-Received: by 10.84.194.37 with SMTP id g34mr5910309pld.139.1506295500377; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 16:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. 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