From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [Emacs-diffs] scratch/widen-less a4ba846: Replace prog-widen with consolidating widen calls Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 12:47:50 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20171129233237.27462.23351@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <34abea95-c7f7-e8fa-8407-8c2fd2a4cfe1@yandex.ru> <83y3mkzw1n.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv2zzv7z.fsf@gnu.org> <83o9nexy48.fsf@gnu.org> <83d13uxug5.fsf@gnu.org> <41e3f343-816f-d2db-6575-6ef43d54957f@yandex.ru> <838tecuqjb.fsf@gnu.org> <83609etizl.fsf@gnu.org> <83wp1ts123.fsf@gnu.org> <1e8587a7-c98b-5183-3cfd-8e1034443f44@yandex.ru> <83shchrwia.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgi9ruo8.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1513025343 5079 195.159.176.226 (11 Dec 2017 20:49:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 20:49:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (darwin) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 11 21:48:57 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOV0P-0000rZ-UE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:48:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55411 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eOV0W-0007Jt-Vo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:49:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52475) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eOUzZ-0007IL-E0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eOUzU-0003BP-Hf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:48:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45491) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eOUzU-0003Az-EK; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:47:56 -0500 Original-Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.228]:35075) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eOUzU-0004wJ-0u; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:47:56 -0500 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DA120A49; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:47:55 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:47:55 -0500 X-ME-Sender: Original-Received: from localhost (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [76.234.69.149]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D35B57FAEB; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:47:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83lgi9ruo8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2017 20:22:47 +0200") Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , dgutov@yandex.ru, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220905 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > John, I'm clearly not helping to reach some kind of consensus here. So I'm > taking myself out of the equation. Please decide what to do with this > branch, where to merge it, and if it will be merged to master, what, if > anything, to do with prog-indentation-context and related stuff on the > release branch. Ok. Dmitry, I do want to say that I'm disappointed this thread has gotten so out of hand. Even when frustrated, we have a responsibility to subordinate our emotions to the matter at hand, which is the relatively straightforward question: should we abandon prog-indentation-context and prog-widen or not? Though Eli has opinions on this matter, he's not unreasonable, and we even have Stefan available to comment on past maintainer decisions. With that said, I've spoken to Eli directly, and we've agreed that it's OK to merge your branch and eliminate these features that were introduced two years ago. I'm not entirely sure why they were added, or why Stefan has changed his mind so greatly since, but it appears the present consensus is that they're no longer needed. Simplicity wins. So, you have my go ahead to merge, but before you do so, please clarify for me (who hasn't been following this discussion as carefully), exactly what impact your merge will have on master and on the status quo. Thank you, -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEE3lW3afxXihSlvlQwwUTY9PGf5jAFAlou7vYACgkQwUTY9PGf 5jAH+gwAoNHNcaU4dup+ltGk9AFYD4oA3tr2hVJ+4EHhVGlvNLhW/BP2QAyFU8SJ Z7+N7AUdcBxiRoY2aGY+aEZTeKaGlp7BzvlgliUCYgbswHTsgNXxFsuojuvK0bUO 4+wSbeANw1ao0zT12YPdwMwERQUzvGUobeg1aO6vicv6nB0CVXKgNItOtyV//2q2 soiXddmXwV4AOlKoYVtVIVPinEB4GmCqm7x5FrlnObwNL39QCfEZi9f9C8kI9CQJ toM0lcy8ruErqFbprHiomrAGVM/ZexZ7Hlfh6L1zAW/PAu3uPkb16K5WGW2HzNFF yw9zAo01wwHqa8KJfd6FJ6iGBHBce2/cmZmz3PD1Iq3hRr5cFwz4V5U3aKX+srJk 0pSk3gtpHLxpERGxk6/9HbWGxtvG9cOhE9aDf2pBpDsoEQXbCRNf7DuFz++u72TY p6bcX36wtytiopbinIvwZoOtOowukGcVdnMuaDWlrb1LstTY7EiQbFoA7hKkhdCZ lFZtcZBb =MF7o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--