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[78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y20sm3601476wmi.8.2020.07.23.08.13.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 23 Jul 2020 08:13:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <838sfafkno.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:03:39 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:183445 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:03:39 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> +always quite line up (see @pxref{FAQ - Glossary} for a more complete Eli> ^^^^^^^^^^ Eli> "see @ref" (@pxref produces "see" on its own), and make a point of Eli> having some punctuation after the closing brace, in this case a comma Eli> will do. Shameless plug: `texinfo-insert-dwim-@ref' (bound to C-c C-c r in texinfo mode) attempts to do the right thing with @ref and similar based on the surrounding text. Robert