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[217.227.103.151]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id sd5-20020a170906ce2500b00992a8a54f32sm538559ejb.139.2023.09.13.23.49.22 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 13 Sep 2023 23:49:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r0n12rav.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Thu, 14 Sep 2023 14:38:00 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::129; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x129.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310570 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: > >> This makes me think immediately of browser technology. We all probably >> know what can be done in web layouts, I guess. As an example that it >> can be used for an editor, take a look at the Monaco editor, which is >> used in VSCode: >> >> https://github.com/microsoft/monaco-editor >> >> (I'm not saying that should be done, or even that it could be done, or >> anything :-)). > > The screenshots in its description sure resemble a ``rectangular canvas > of rows'' to me, and I can't find its source code to establish if it is > implemented any differently. Any pointers? Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that this editor is somehow non-rectangular. What I meant is that (a) this technology has advanced layout capabilities, and (b) can obviously be used for interactive applications, like an editor.