Praise for Emacs 22 from a user

Praise for Emacs 22 from a user

[Ralph Moritz]

Hello,

   I'm an Emacs user of around 4 years, and although I'd name my
first child after this most omniscient of editors, many of my
friends abhor Emacs. Thankfully, version 22 addresses many
of their concerns.

   I now feel confident that when I present Emacs to friends
and colleagues, they will not immediately be put off by a
smelly interface.

   Thanks to everyone who has worked to make Emacs more
attractive and accessible; you've done us all a great
favour, and I salute you. I hope that when v22 is released
it will be the start of an "Emacs renaissance" :-)

Regards,
Ralph

PS. Do you think v22 will be ready before the Ubuntu
     Dapper release? I'd love to see and updated Emacs
     bundled with Dapper.

-- 
Ralph Moritz
< ralphm AT members DOT fsf DOT org >
Ph: +27/0 31 705 5268 (home)
     +27/0 72 385 0679 (mobile)

Re: Praise for Emacs 22 from a user

[Leon]

Ralph Moritz <ralmoritz@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
>   I'm an Emacs user of around 4 years, and although I'd name my
> first child after this most omniscient of editors, many of my
> friends abhor Emacs. Thankfully, version 22 addresses many
> of their concerns.
>
>   I now feel confident that when I present Emacs to friends
> and colleagues, they will not immediately be put off by a
> smelly interface.
>
>   Thanks to everyone who has worked to make Emacs more
> attractive and accessible; you've done us all a great
> favour, and I salute you. I hope that when v22 is released
> it will be the start of an "Emacs renaissance" :-)
>
> Regards,
> Ralph
>
> PS. Do you think v22 will be ready before the Ubuntu
>     Dapper release? I'd love to see and updated Emacs
>     bundled with Dapper.

Ubuntu is scheduled to release on 1 June.

-- 
Leon

Re: Praise for Emacs 22 from a user

[Mathias Dahl]

>   I now feel confident that when I present Emacs to friends
> and colleagues, they will not immediately be put off by a
> smelly interface.

I am curious, was there any feature in particular that they thought was missing?

Re: Praise for Emacs 22 from a user

[David Kastrup]

Leon <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:

> Ralph Moritz <ralmoritz@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> PS. Do you think v22 will be ready before the Ubuntu
>>     Dapper release? I'd love to see and updated Emacs
>>     bundled with Dapper.
>
> Ubuntu is scheduled to release on 1 June.

Dapper has "emacs-snapshot" in its repositories.  It's something like
from January IIRC.  So if people are willing, they can get a whiff of
news to come.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

Re: Praise for Emacs 22 from a user

[Richard Stallman]

    PS. Do you think v22 will be ready before the Ubuntu
	 Dapper release?

We do not attempt to coordinate in any way with Ubuntu.
Ubuntu has a serious moral flaw: it includes non-free software
and will even install it without saying anything.

Re: Praise for Emacs 22 from a user

[Ralph Moritz]

Mathias Dahl wrote:
>>   I now feel confident that when I present Emacs to friends
>> and colleagues, they will not immediately be put off by a
>> smelly interface.
> 
> I am curious, was there any feature in particular that they thought was 
> missing?

many people I know felt that switching fonts was too difficult
in Emacs 21. A lot of people also complained about the fact that
Woe32 key bindings (C-c, C-v etc) were not available as a menu
option.

-- 
Ralph Moritz
< ralphm AT members DOT fsf DOT org >
Ph: +27/0 31 705 5268 (home)
     +27/0 72 385 0679 (mobile)

Re: Praise for Emacs 22 from a user

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Leon <sdl.web@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 21:56:57 +0100
> 
> > PS. Do you think v22 will be ready before the Ubuntu
> >     Dapper release? I'd love to see and updated Emacs
> >     bundled with Dapper.
> 
> Ubuntu is scheduled to release on 1 June.

IMO, there's not a slightest chance Emacs 22 will be out by that date.
We haven't even started the pretest yet.