From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CL package serious deficiencies Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:03:52 -1000 Message-ID: References: <33271707.post@talk.nabble.com> <87fwemcwlx.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328655399 7783 80.91.229.3 (7 Feb 2012 22:56:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:56:39 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 07 23:56:39 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rutxl-00052X-Lw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:56:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43184 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rutxl-0000e7-AR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:56:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42899) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rutxi-0000dh-7k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:56:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rutxg-0000zs-VT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:56:34 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46234) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rutxg-0000zi-Pt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:56:32 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rutxd-0004yr-1p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:56:29 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.215.105.167]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:56:29 +0100 Original-Received: from jwiegley by c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:56:29 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 11 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.130002 (Ma Gnus v0.2) Emacs/23.4 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PEDlkUvDp7MESMb8IROPbL4V2DM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148327 Archived-At: >>>>> Lennart Borgman writes: > There are things that do not work if you include cl.el at run time. You may > not notice the problems and tracking it down has been quite difficult some > times. Can we move those breaking definitions into another file, say cl-ext.el, and then allow library authors to require 'cl at runtime? There are a lot of useful routines in cl.el which are not harmful to other code. John