From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: over-engineered (and under-standardized) inferior interfaces Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:29:11 -0400 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: References: Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408743022 23857 80.91.229.3 (22 Aug 2014 21:30:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:30:22 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 22 23:30:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XKwPZ-0000SK-9p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 23:30:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39270 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKwPY-0005ve-Sf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:30:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37845) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKwPR-0005uI-OD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:30:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKwPM-0001EA-Lm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:53729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKwPM-0001CG-GH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XKwPL-0000KP-BB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 23:30:03 +0200 Original-Received: from 66.9.135.66 ([66.9.135.66]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 23:30:03 +0200 Original-Received: from sds by 66.9.135.66 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 23:30:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.9.135.66 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (darwin) X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZovXeqz7h2cL2/PrsYhDhtIfris= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173813 Archived-At: > * Stefan Monnier [2014-08-21 16:29:35 -0400]: > >> 2. Lack of standardization in interaction and keybindings. > > 100% agreement. FWIW, I have started a `prog-proc-mode', which is > supposed to be a minor mode used in a programming mode and that makes > the link to an underlying comint mode. cool! why don't you put it into the emacs repo? also, it would be nice if you could incorporate a solution to my first gripe by binding default-directory to a user option early. remember, the process does _not_ have to run on the same box as the file with the code. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.1265 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://truepeace.org http://islamexposedonline.com http://memri.org http://think-israel.org http://pmw.org.il Legends are time-tested rumors.