From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fixing package-initialize, adding early init file Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:54:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506358542 30121 195.159.176.226 (25 Sep 2017 16:55:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:55:42 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130016 (Ma Gnus v0.16) Emacs/26.0 (darwin) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Radon Rosborough Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 25 18:55:33 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwWfH-0006uP-Mi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:55:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43467 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwWfP-0007PC-1F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:55:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59200) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwWei-0007NE-N2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:54:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwWef-0006Zu-L9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:54:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c05::236]:49714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwWef-0006Yb-Eq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:54:49 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg0-x236.google.com with SMTP id m30so4298986pgn.6 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:54:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=HL4WMMCRdX70yw+T4oiVQHhOHOCVTw/9WuQZ4hpvb1U=; b=uaJgJCmXwQpLpphQuBJy0liU1I4vVeHtz5nNwedjGqx9kf8k8blBw1Acez0I0g/b8y RRINbtvTDST27hHT1kBXkAmikN4tPBS6bI0sAneABpPUynOcWIt/Rgua3GQ9t6cO1T/I HAEIqBV88NH5MM+7SrhDRGADs+iKO1a2ucDBq090FGbYRucUzh2lPtRvuc4O1p9FeXdO jFwUsiXgiEydJsjTSh0jyeyfZh6e6ZHKrS1+EirPCkiOFTOU+oBVlqNYiC/1fvEM78E4 H5tba3s/FarYVObcumnWHAmxWxhwQ8SI2P3m4o10fbKdY2c7qFcGxtwmhIZQgOPyOrth Oo1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=HL4WMMCRdX70yw+T4oiVQHhOHOCVTw/9WuQZ4hpvb1U=; b=kmnO2y6tfvFPZ9tDbZItoFXrIKQAvOb49qRuPbyehd4jfWN7XSE26RG2dhpp8SaJkP rVSZ6sDIbPv3c/l0VQJeI/rXLvQPEDl1MDcFiWKuIHix7kAYLj3+JKV78WQcOx2dRH5S IT+ObXAsPT4ga4ROEsi7iihx4Nx+bUeWycPxO01amoDrfF5gI6glo7iwPr2VgGJUcHvV QO8ZDTNnV+FtjU17hVKg3ZR5XjxfdHnfGD33vKmLgo1Tnn5M95dSFC2JsVlaTKpllhk6 89RNw5G8kZ1OD4sb9DKLweX1//LLKjB3gY/9g+BFmqY/6aoLnJdt/pilM0x9zs0JOWD1 UHiw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjYGmaWIylvJtyd+Vb3TQLyQrUYzkhqD2olLHa4qz3WXFzxRykd XrTluZfsWs0qkMs3MjXDJuk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCnI5yxPggt5HyxcvxZcq33a5ylVQ3Lj5Bv7wug6kE3x+V4cktXNkkpEPP7LZC0exVnR8TX6w== X-Received: by 10.84.204.133 with SMTP id b5mr8166855ple.440.1506358488145; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f8sm10309129pgs.7.2017.09.25.09.54.47 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:54:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 93AAE90714E5; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:54:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Radon Rosborough's message of "Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:27:28 -0700") Mail-Followup-To: Radon Rosborough , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218776 Archived-At: >>>>> "RR" == Radon Rosborough writes: RR> Done. New patch attached. This seems like a lot of changes that add new complications to the startup of Emacs. Since I don't have time just now to review those 150 messages, may I please ask for an executive summary to motivate this change? -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2