From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Filipp Gunbin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why fido, icycles, ido, icomplete Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 20:54:00 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20191106212018.cnddqzlo5rpdhi6s.ref@Ergus> <20191106212018.cnddqzlo5rpdhi6s@Ergus> <877e4c1x3r.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="205593"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (darwin) Cc: Ergus , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 08 18:56:41 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iT8Uy-000rML-FB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 18:56:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58506 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iT8Ux-0005U7-DV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 12:56:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48410) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iT8Ui-0005Tz-8d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 12:56:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iT8Ud-0003es-Tq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 12:56:21 -0500 Original-Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.25]:60807) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iT8UZ-0003ah-TT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 12:56:17 -0500 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EAC395; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 12:56:10 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 08 Nov 2019 12:56:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm1; bh= xP3depkBWt6evVFgJq7r1yRGZD3a7mFGx/lURjbyRTo=; b=UdLzo4lrh9QoMGsj StT3GyaRbmwj/dm0OrIZeF/k++rPqZqS+vK+Dxx5r27SWmg+d5fIeQ1n2caFKS9R mw15oslVz2Z8eEPiqRvJx91DzYb6hNTwyAYemcryp/wHHb/pAg0vnN/6Cibzszam ZEjVJjai8OG7G/9OC4fUPKGBUQrgbMBBmKkc/SqDyyvs/M1mEpD/PAzwrX7L7suk tgC9IWTkNUI4rECVQvocOkiRURwC2N1X7GXI51QE8nThDm2hgjFRA75iIaM/pyh2 0wR1Ln2lXZPDUzUanNP8/7LHBojTeytY6WH5lIyGDPtLbk7yESFYggaojFeIc2LJ WvXIyw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=xP3depkBWt6evVFgJq7r1yRGZD3a7mFGx/lURjbyR To=; b=qBrxT8C87ebxuou81eG4g1+abhnwzoXmYXJSMAist7OEMdZ8b62rhHZ6T hA5upcCFtNl0m7qiziCax17X5POviVO4FeNn1QOuLROXThTbYWsVYbx/JWgDMSf8 M5yeS76fuI0T1+K+6TohLA1zw0sO4CmZHJVE3MnXDgumydkXNDNMGUN9Hb6SY/d1 aAAa/MTCfFz4dggGdPX51kberFd0sLfTXSlE6EXUUR9OhCqYeOHsIcFejy1RaYIv bRPfAyFpEWc0xSfiOCaF9XA4WafUf2wFpv5TMjlgWu/qq3/XQuLVvCu8GY4YEN06 wEdgLaPDtAneoQ/sO1ofJHJSnIQ3g== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedruddvuddguddtlecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpefhvffujghffgffkfggtgfgsehtqhertddtreejnecuhfhrohhmpefhihhl ihhpphcuifhunhgsihhnuceofhhguhhnsghinhesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdhfmheqnecukf hppedukeehrdeggedrudehrdduiedvnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehfghhu nhgsihhnsehfrghsthhmrghilhdrfhhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: Original-Received: from fgunbin.lan (unknown [185.44.15.162]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 866A53060060; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 12:54:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <877e4c1x3r.fsf@gmail.com> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vor?= =?utf-8?Q?a=22's?= message of "Wed, 06 Nov 2019 22:03:20 +0000") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 64.147.123.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:241992 Archived-At: On 06/11/2019 22:03 +0000, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: > Ergus writes: > >> 1) Do we really need another confusing mode (fido-mode)? instead of >> improve one of the already existing alternatives with just an option to >> use flex? > > I'm sorry you find the name confusing. I find it appealing (it's "fake > ido"), but we can change it (Stefan proposed icomplete-ido-mode). +1 for the name change, because Fido was a pre-Internet-era BBS network popular at least in Russia. I was too young when it was operational, but even for me the name would be confusing. Filipp