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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253794 Archived-At: >>>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 00:44:25 -0400, Richard Stallman said: Richard> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] Richard> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] Richard> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >> It looks like this approach keeps popping up as a "possible Richard> solution," so I'll just point out again that this is _already Richard> implemented_ in the package above, and is being used by various people Richard> to make Gnus work with Gmail and XOAuth2. The discussion here is about Richard> how to _avoid_ having to do that. Richard> What IS "this approach"? Does it get a key that GNUS can use for everyone? Richard> Does it have each user get a key from Google? The latter. Basically each user has to log in to the google developer 'console' with a web browser and register themselves, and then perform a set of steps to generate an OAuth2 token. Robert