From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Nicolas P. Rougier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: splash-screen Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 14:29:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34292"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 21 14:32:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kKKzT-0008n9-05 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 14:32:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51144 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kKKzS-0001jg-0T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 08:32:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58024) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kKKx7-0008Mw-2d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 08:29:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]:26118) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kKKx4-0000UC-5M; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 08:29:52 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.77,286,1596492000"; d="scan'208";a="468755020" Original-Received: from 91-160-114-139.subs.proxad.net (HELO M-E7-NPR.local) ([91.160.114.139]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 21 Sep 2020 14:29:30 +0200 In-reply-to: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=192.134.164.83; envelope-from=nicolas.rougier@inria.fr; helo=mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/21 04:35:08 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -68 X-Spam_score: -6.9 X-Spam_bar: ------ X-Spam_report: (-6.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256284 Archived-At: Thanks to your message I just realized that I made some confusion between the actual startup page and the about-emacs page that are similar yet different (for me they were the same since I disabled the startup screen a long time ago and never really read it). I also realized the startup page in graphical (emacs -q) and terminal mode (emacs -q -nw) are also different on my system for some unknown reason to me. In my case, only the terminal version display some useful key bindings. Initially, my idea was to have a transient splash screen that can be bypassed by an experienced user but leads automatically to the startup screen for a new user where useful information is displayed. Now I've a problem because it's not clear how to show the initial startup screen; Nicolas Alfred M. Szmidt writes: > I really want to like this, it looks nice -- though I miss the > graphics. But it is lacking the usefulness, and direction of > the > original. A new user would be totally lost as to what one would > do, > reminiscant of the way vi starts up with nothing other than > beeps. > > Also, where would the information about recovering files be > shown? > > What about do you think about this? > > While I think the visit new file "link" is useful, I think it > would be > good to keep the menu bar shown when the splash screen is shown, > since > most users would be familiar with the File menu and want to open > a > file that way. > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > GNU Emacs > 26.3 > is free software > and > part of the GNU operating system > > Tutorial > Manual > > If an Emacs session crashed recently, type > M-x recover-session RET > to recover the files you were editing. > > GNU Emacs comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY > Copyright (C) 2020 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+