From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Markus Triska Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70326: 30.0.50; Backup Files documentation does not match observed behaviour Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:24:53 +0200 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20240"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: 70326@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 10 20:11:21 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rucPm-00051d-Ip for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:11:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rucPS-0001Q4-Ab; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:10:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rucPQ-0001Pm-O9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rucPQ-00067l-G2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rucPY-0002vJ-U6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:11:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Markus Triska Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:11:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 70326 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.171277262910927 (code B ref -1); Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:11:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2024 18:10:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54346 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rucOy-0002qA-Go for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:10:29 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:50724) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rucOu-0002oM-BA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:10:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rucOf-0001Lo-VN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:10:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [78.47.144.35] (helo=metalevel.at) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rucOd-0005wg-Ou for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:10:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mts-Mac-mini.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by metalevel.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9D39C751 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:02:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by mts-Mac-mini.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6A7762E71B08; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:24:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 78.47.144.35 (failed) Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.47.144.35; envelope-from=triska@metalevel.at; helo=metalevel.at X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:283061 Archived-At: In 19.3.2 Backup Files, we read: "Emacs makes a backup for a file only the first time the file is saved from a buffer." However, when I launch Emacs with: $ emacs -Q and then do: C-x C-w backup.txt RET then the file is saved from the buffer as expected, and Emacs tells me: "Wrote .../backup.txt" However, even though this is the first time the file is saved from a buffer, no backup for a file is created, and buffer-backed-up is nil. If possible, could you please consider rephrasing the documentation so that it accurately describes the cases where a backup file is created, or alternatively adapt the behaviour so that it matches the current documentation? Thank you and all the best, Markus In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.2.0, X toolkit, cairo version 1.17.6, Xaw scroll bars) of 2023-09-11 built on mac Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000 System Description: Mac OS X 10.14.2