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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>,  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org,  eller.helmut@gmail.com
Subject: Re: MPS: User GC customizations
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 14:51:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2frspz5ff.fsf@pro2.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tth5pdqc.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2024 12:02:03 +0000")

Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

> Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi Ihor. Soemthing completely unrelated, but I think it might be
>> interesting to play with if you are running an igc Emacs more often:
>>
>>   igc-step-interval is a variable defined in ‘C source code’.
>>
>>   Its value is 0.1
>>
>>   How much time is MPS allowed to spend in GC when Emacs is idle.
>>   The value is in seconds, and should be a non-negative number.  It can
>>   be either an integer or a float.  The default value is 0 which means .
>>   don’t do something when idle.  Negative values and values that are not numbers
>>   are handled as if they were the default value.
>>
>> It's for interactive use.
>
> IMHO, this variable makes little sense in isolation. It only makes sense
> to postpone GCs when we also have the means to increase the thresholds
> when to trigger them. Most of the time, GCs are triggered by
> memory-intensive commands. Extra GC on idle would not help those.

Define GC, so to speak, and define what triggering the GC means in a
concurrent, incremental GC :-)

What this variable does is give MPS notice that the client is currently
idle and it might be a good time to do some work.

> For example, my recent measurement of building agendas displayed 30% of
> the time spend in GC. (whatever this means in the context of our handling
> of SIGPRF)

Exactly, whqt does it mean? And if we don't know, why is it an example
for anything?



  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-04 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-01  9:26 MPS: Crash when switching to buffer Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-01 12:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-01 12:13   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-01 12:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-01 14:14   ` Pip Cet
2024-07-01 14:42     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02  0:22       ` Pip Cet
2024-07-02  4:04         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 11:40         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 10:31           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 11:48             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 12:02               ` MPS: User GC customizations (was: MPS: Crash when switching to buffer) Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 12:51                 ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2024-07-04 13:20                   ` MPS: User GC customizations Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 14:45                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 15:12                       ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 16:07                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 16:38                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 17:02                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 17:53                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 18:18                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 18:28                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 18:32                                 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 18:43                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 18:39                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 18:48                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 13:58                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 14:30                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 15:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 15:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 15:52                         ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 16:04                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 17:01                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 18:03                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 18:28                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 18:43                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 19:09                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 19:12                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 16:38                     ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 17:06                       ` Gerd Möllmann

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