From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim McNamara Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:23:55 -0600 Organization: ipHouse - Welcome Home! Message-ID: References: <54321A2A-3F36-4416-B473-49AC11FF057F@gmail.com> <853bk5gwa8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <792D87C1-B9A9-495E-9335-7139845D1CB0@gmail.com> <85fyo4zvei.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sls47lvd.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <85wthftsme.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1136503710 934 80.91.229.2 (5 Jan 2006 23:28:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 06 00:28:27 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EueWw-00069h-By for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 00:28:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EueYg-0004ph-QL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:30:14 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!mpls-transit-01.news.qwest.net!204.153.245.50.MISMATCH!be1-001.octanews.net!green.octanews.net!news-out.octanews.net!news-2.mpls.iphouse.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yJBgw6gWv55DhMLLCXjhoGgTKGA= Original-Lines: 46 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 05 Jan 2006 17:23:56 CST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 3a829563.newsreader.iphouse.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=G==b; ; >^_e:]GWHEP>e[L>830\5`amn586>>m:@8]TdIgg5f@e7N90MVd=aF:=k7PX[f6 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@iphouse.net Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:136852 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:32471 Archived-At: "Luis O. Silva" writes: > Hi, > > On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:59:49 -0600, Tim McNamara writes: > > TM> I use a Mac. I'm not apologizing for it nor am I going > TM> to let someone make me feel like I'm doing something > TM> wrong. > > I invite you to apologize and repent of your sin. This is the > place for doing it, son. :) Hee hee. Not gonna happen. > TM> I've yet to find a GNU/Linux or BSD system that > TM> is as good to use as OS X. > > It's not a matter of how well something works. The only way to > go is that of freedom. How well software works is a central issue in getting people to use it. If the Free Software movement is content to have a limited market and minimal adoption, well that can't be helped. My computer is a tool. I need it to just work, I need it to be reliable, and I need it to be easily useable. In short, I don't have time to edit .conf files. > TM> I've financially supported GNU, since I do not have the > TM> skills to offer support in terms of software > TM> development. > > That help is important, but what we need _much_ more is a > change in your mind. I invite you to see beyond the obvious > and immediate things. You don't need to be a software > developer, you can do many things with your attitude. I do see those things. I just disagree with David K's hostility and castigation of others. What the free software movement doesn't seem to grasp is that one of the things that counts is useability- both in terms of the relationship between software and user, but also the relationships between contributors and maintainers. If you alienate people, they just go away and stop using/contributing to your software. The implied "oh well, good riddance" is an attitude that is the kiss of death.