* GNUS bug: Summary line doesn't match article
@ 2007-09-21 15:43 Sascha Wilde
2007-09-22 10:04 ` Johan Bockgård
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sascha Wilde @ 2007-09-21 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel, ding
Hi *,
I'm experiencing a strange and most annoying problem with gnus:
in some Newsgroups (especially those with much unread messages, but
this might just be an coincidence) while reading a thread I get
articles displayed, which are totally unrelated and certainly don't
match the active line in the summary buffer.
For an example see this "screenshot":
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ 30: topmind ] Re: Design Patterns and Functional
R + [ 107: Kent M Pitman ]
[ 40: Don Geddis ]
+ [ 30: Kent M Pitman ]
-111:----F1 Gnus: c.l.lisp [231816] {16467 more} Top (2,13) (Summary
From: Mariano Montone <marianomontone@gmail.com>
Subject: Message passing syntax
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:10:14 -0000
Organization: http://groups.google.com
User-Agent: G2/1.0
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The currently marked "active" article is the `R' marked article by
Kent M Pitman, but as you can see gnus really displays an article by
Mariano Montone, where not even the subject matches.
I see this phenomenon in different groups and different threads.
Sometimes only a few messages scattered other an thread are
affected, sometimes whole threads victims of this problem.
It's 100% reproducible: Once I saw the problem with one message I can
even close Emacs completely, after re-entering the group the message
in question will still be replaced on display be the same unrelated
other message.
It seems only to affect net-news, never experienced this with mail
groups.
Originally I stumbled across the problem in Emacs CVS HEAD (gnus
5.11), but I just tried ngnus.tar.gz and gnus-5.10.8 and all behave
exactly the same. Maybe the problem is in some way or the other
"cached", so that I see it even with gnus versions, not having the
bug? Or might it be a bug in Emacs CVS HEAD, which is triggered by
gnus in this strange fashion?
Any hints and tips and especially workarounds are highly appreciated!
I very much depend on gnus as a mail and news reader and this problem
is highly annoying and kind of alarming at the same time...
cheers
sascha
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* Re: GNUS bug: Summary line doesn't match article
2007-09-21 15:43 GNUS bug: Summary line doesn't match article Sascha Wilde
@ 2007-09-22 10:04 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-09-22 18:32 ` Sascha Wilde
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Johan Bockgård @ 2007-09-22 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: ding
Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> writes:
> in some Newsgroups (especially those with much unread messages, but
> this might just be an coincidence) while reading a thread I get
> articles displayed, which are totally unrelated and certainly don't
> match the active line in the summary buffer.
A shot in the dark: are those groups "virtual groups"?
--
Johan Bockgård
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* Re: GNUS bug: Summary line doesn't match article
2007-09-22 10:04 ` Johan Bockgård
@ 2007-09-22 18:32 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-22 19:11 ` Nelson Ferreira
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sascha Wilde @ 2007-09-22 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: ding
bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockgård) wrote:
> Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> writes:
>
>> in some Newsgroups (especially those with much unread messages, but
>> this might just be an coincidence) while reading a thread I get
>> articles displayed, which are totally unrelated and certainly don't
>> match the active line in the summary buffer.
>
> A shot in the dark: are those groups "virtual groups"?
No, ordinary net news groups.
sascha
--
Sascha Wilde
Well, *my* brain likes to think it's vastly more powerful than any
finite Turing machine but it hasn't proven that to me...
-- Christopher Koppler in comp.lang.lisp
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* Re: GNUS bug: Summary line doesn't match article
2007-09-22 18:32 ` Sascha Wilde
@ 2007-09-22 19:11 ` Nelson Ferreira
2007-09-24 12:47 ` Sascha Wilde
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Nelson Ferreira @ 2007-09-22 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: ding
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"Sascha" == Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> wrote:
Sascha> bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockgård) wrote:
>> Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> writes:
>>
>>> in some Newsgroups (especially those with much unread messages, but
>>> this might just be an coincidence) while reading a thread I get
>>> articles displayed, which are totally unrelated and certainly don't
>>> match the active line in the summary buffer.
>>
>> A shot in the dark: are those groups "virtual groups"?
Sascha> No, ordinary net news groups.
I experienced that on gnus.emacs.general on news.individual.net, but
went away after I catch-up the group.
I assumed it might have been some mismatch between the nntp server
article ordering and gnus, but maybe it is a bug.
[...]
- --
Nelson Ferreira
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* Re: GNUS bug: Summary line doesn't match article
2007-09-22 19:11 ` Nelson Ferreira
@ 2007-09-24 12:47 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-24 15:03 ` Manoj Srivastava
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sascha Wilde @ 2007-09-24 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: ding
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Nelson Ferreira <njsf@sxemacs.org> wrote:
> "Sascha" == Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> wrote:
> Sascha> bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockgård) wrote:
> >> Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> writes:
> >>> in some Newsgroups (especially those with much unread messages, but
> >>> this might just be an coincidence) while reading a thread I get
> >>> articles displayed, which are totally unrelated and certainly don't
> >>> match the active line in the summary buffer.
[...]
> I experienced that on gnus.emacs.general on news.individual.net, but
So I'm not alone! :-)
FWIW: in my case the problem occurs with news.individual.net, too.
So the phenomenon _might_ be related to the server.
> went away after I catch-up the group.
In my case, too. But if I look at the old articles (using C-u M-g) I
can still see it -- or to put it in the way I feel: I still can't read
certain threads.
> I assumed it might have been some mismatch between the nntp server
> article ordering and gnus, but maybe it is a bug.
In any case the interesting question would be, what is the cached
information, which leads to this problem and is there an way to purge
it?
cheers
Sascha
--
Sascha Wilde
If you think technology can solve your problems you don't understand
technology and you don't understand your problems. (Bruce Schneier)
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* Re: GNUS bug: Summary line doesn't match article
2007-09-24 12:47 ` Sascha Wilde
@ 2007-09-24 15:03 ` Manoj Srivastava
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Manoj Srivastava @ 2007-09-24 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sascha Wilde; +Cc: emacs-devel, ding
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:47:04 +0200, Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> said:
> Nelson Ferreira <njsf@sxemacs.org> wrote:
>> "Sascha" == Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> wrote:
Sascha> bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockgård) wrote:
>> >> Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> writes:
>> >>> in some Newsgroups (especially those with much unread messages,
>> >>> but this might just be an coincidence) while reading a thread I
>> >>> get articles displayed, which are totally unrelated and certainly
>> >>> don't match the active line in the summary buffer.
> [...]
>> I experienced that on gnus.emacs.general on news.individual.net, but
> So I'm not alone! :-) FWIW: in my case the problem occurs with
> news.individual.net, too. So the phenomenon _might_ be related to the
> server.
>> went away after I catch-up the group.
> In my case, too. But if I look at the old articles (using C-u M-g) I
> can still see it -- or to put it in the way I feel: I still can't read
> certain threads.
I had that happen to me in an nnml group; and yes, it went away
after a while. I did not have time to debug what was going on, I just
ignored the summary buffer information for the duration.
manoj
--
Love means having to say you're sorry every five minutes.
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