From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for removing obsolete packages Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:28:57 -0800 Message-ID: References: <83twmkkv16.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: John Wiegley NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453181362 1792 80.91.229.3 (19 Jan 2016 05:29:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 05:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 19 06:29:15 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aLOqx-0008UH-1K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 06:29:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35125 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLOqw-0007w2-6L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:29:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52839) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLOqs-0007vS-2Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:29:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLOqn-0006ei-Fc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:29:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233]:36488) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLOqn-0006ec-9j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:29:05 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x233.google.com with SMTP id yy13so352553316pab.3 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:29:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:reply-to:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=g93+Pp7vlijmowgefOnjDCW66aGAzQQSWAxLvv+m5UU=; b=Z32xsq8cS8Gx0Sz1UBJ8QYzNYh/Jnge4vwJZtj8PcjkI2j+nw9emb6H41AGQ45EjuI pV/1pEne/ij9d84ot+E8Mc3bRTKD4jbI721EOsb9EnC6oQkAjGMWxG01TS/1HNLfYPo+ VKIDuJG+9+W2pNttZsVtnef0nKWk1hCnO/UK/5zk8gGUvvBrKeSzuuw7ZXHyIUXLGmtV 0E/t7kFTFA+jl4hTrIgmkPgJqRxIKLyAKhAcLdaR2UvyFXFxXbpIJ47wQ7kfaKg3ET0j lTDLfb1aOakS+R3mwCKCm9PJm3BqamVk1M7Fds7xQCmcDBiWVeHquODWsJTjQNzqYz7m i+JQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:reply-to:mail-followup-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=g93+Pp7vlijmowgefOnjDCW66aGAzQQSWAxLvv+m5UU=; b=m1VEbUZJHX8L00LI4YFZKcBq0TuWDGp2QdFu9R5Hb+3QklCiLRnSlCSun6mox9n0sM Sju34ovYO2K9CrfK1nKGW9FvonaUabw4JlY2FEfZnMQQMm/XFmuncvtyEQ7rMvNZJoDq 6YsMLaWihg3OT3b2p/2KC+OWcpc8SXljnfdoBhuXCA+VWVSVYU5fa77NXOSvT0q1aT2H UvnUprSVSTzgZpVY4hVlCwS4jSUJBw7oTtr5nEpvcBrHMNsrUdLOQa/iOKLKaZRSnRHl BcAAZA7k7RFI3alo7gxleNigTW1YN1OM1kPUAfgb4M2Rxnz74o/9wF2SW+2HS9tpSYFX Bvdw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnM+qAFfm7dC/NbhUgds81f+NJO318Wyjy5VvkTqKisTeqxhQqhnEAeCkQ2/4H8bXCksC4oTajClJt8NBlnfIqPOyRUNA== X-Received: by 10.66.184.15 with SMTP id eq15mr41166137pac.42.1453181344692; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:29:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u21sm37891361pfi.15.2016.01.18.21.29.02 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:29:02 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id D1459124CAFB9; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:29:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:24:17 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198335 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Stefan Monnier writes: >> We've repeatedly seen reports from people who jump 2 major releases, so I >> think removing sooner than after a full major release cycle is not >> something we should start with. > Agreed. And that matches our past behavior: we generally purge features > marked obsolete more than 2 major versions ago (tho the condition shouldn= 't > be based on counting major versions but on years, IMO). I like this suggestion as well, and would like to delay purging until after= a full major release cycle. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJWncmZAAoJEMFE2PTxn+YwAZkL/0ED8r7tBoJMOW2k1Mgb0Vq2 1/KsBOb/ltXhvtNoygLz2g9S27UQYnNGYUlqjf0hJSzhkrpchnkh1pY0T4WPTOdf mkEFUGVM101cr9Es3R7dCybVab/dVm6zMgLbFEaeQh7fK0tfeN2F+VfWSEsU+uxi KBzH5dfTHdJhznJ0OuME9b3OUh0EVGFnfhcRC1q3tagQ3sGL5mQ7pfw8xTERcP7k 8iyGcy9uiCcMt1gzdadVgyTqtI639t2Q+rmmtxay7z9eQulPho+WYezvkOwlg3Ug Hgdn+42YCBEcZdj0yGxeRImTvq3QVKwCqA7i0Ps4T/cokhVygdVWoNuv8Y2f+Ihi mZNGigPVMpSGrUooDoT7NeeAI2ASSB+VvDIwe4CYZBPk1zYT8OC2qk77h7SwvNNm qiSncXUtaJ2GoD4sKpeaE85Zpyz6+Z0mjrKt+NCzH11YKbdQAyjiecaTzPw6d368 pcWwnPnfoXswOCLvGNNdtBaP/mnosWKgkzb6a0dNLA== =+ss+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--