From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 d0d9f55: Allow newlines inside cl function arglists Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 09:26:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20160509235343.17047.73943@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20160509235343.759D0220128@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <83inyj9j1z.fsf@gnu.org> <83ziru8htv.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463157452 17055 80.91.229.3 (13 May 2016 16:37:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 16:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 13 18:37:25 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b1G5a-0007ff-M1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 18:37:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35246 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1G5a-0000PM-4s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 12:37:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34259) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1G5G-0000Lx-HT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 12:37:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1G5E-0006hM-3e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 12:37:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x243.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::243]:36122) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1G58-0006gP-9G; Fri, 13 May 2016 12:36:54 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x243.google.com with SMTP id g132so9692941pfb.3; Fri, 13 May 2016 09:36:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=px/wZVkUgcp0VUReEjpFlPGffY2v9dFJhUVhpvwChcc=; b=kHoILMiqUqBCaZxrczCu/LRTkBD79o5IkVoUfrfosg1x5Xa/sHSKjQJPCmcG6VSJn6 eRRgr1Ci8gF96souNo8fOP8BfXlAS5Q6sHQEu9a21IAcC2SrZUnSKt2s/a0h7vAkSiOA mjbv8lIMovOps1kXUMrkBem+EuKQ7T8A6cTQGdqM+i5yAuYulZWQyZbF/7UI11nJTXuP J81felA/VXVJCPxpiwua1JtGw37zUS5HU0PH/uUzUVG9srj6a6NA6cOi08rmcVh2KNUu bc/f6bgX8Tto9Xn7z0XR1HR0l5zBW6jkcIsuZIby1C1CLmM4FW/JUNnK8DcSpP/lQg+O OEcg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=px/wZVkUgcp0VUReEjpFlPGffY2v9dFJhUVhpvwChcc=; b=lKqh6P/5ELgsQLbh+CjnQLByBSAImgsxCuXPtR8AJc3pluxLmeTlYcTeilZPWBbNC/ XT5neb7yjnA8MnszFXyUBpLTgcysYvwSbQu5wA74mdshZ/TtEbGElmtR2IOV1X6eRMd3 TM82OhZNzOXnNSTgbP7jJcFl2E2i3kzEYxusILrEBAldvIkDs/cBbE+RE1evGyYXt+HA 4rNWkiXDYGzAbW0rMGNah8STZ6NTqgfRuxzojXWRAz4ITIz1BQFCxOYLYhVk3T19/I9X 7EeQUE1E728Vjhw0IAMI71wpnzof6zS38RgG+9S6/cWggNwqkufG83KDu6wUI3Oflb0V aKIw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUSlZ2Wzgw37KCP80FyBv/7HxiZYGPl25SSR4y+V9I+EzB2lmZgK2WcvN0VETivSA== X-Received: by 10.98.101.199 with SMTP id z190mr24533834pfb.1.1463157413390; Fri, 13 May 2016 09:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o80sm28598810pfa.37.2016.05.13.09.36.51 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 13 May 2016 09:36:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A60D55077C1; Fri, 13 May 2016 09:36:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83ziru8htv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 May 2016 11:47:56 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.93 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::243 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203828 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> 3. The presence of the bug makes basic functionality annoying or cumbers= ome. >>=20 >> 4. The presence of the bug would cause widespread breakage in community >> packages, unless there is an acceptable upgrade path. > Thanks. However, items 3 and 4 are IMO too vague, and can fit almost any > issue, as the criteria are open to subjective interpretation. Yes, if a person lobbies for a bug to be included in the blocking list under these criteria, they'd need to do some convincing on these points. > Also, we used to have criteria related to the age of the bug, on the > assumption that old bugs are less likely to be critical. I'm not saying t= hat > we must keep such a criterion, but I think it should at least be consider= ed > for inclusion. Sure, I'd be willing to add this. A bug that's been in the past 5 versions= of Emacs can likely be in a 6th. >> In other words, as long as the presence of bug X doesn't make Emacs >> unsuitable for use, I'm willing to live with bug X until the next point >> release. > This sounds like much more stringent criterion than the others. I meant it to summarize what a bug should "feel" like to be considered blocking, but I didn't add it to the list. "Unsuitable" is even vaguer stil= l. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJXNgAeAAoJEMFE2PTxn+Yw348L/jGIonP040AE3jnHNlxhyaA0 sY8F2YwQhKwbhH3U7HmgOAhHlIR/2Xu5bA7OOn89fGUJgHug9f+iorT/SRQUxpKg JcafMLxaiEfZRlTxhIl1ZOS18jjtQYWqi0kpG0zUQgcEQNMtJ7Vmc5HVpNINRY7s ol1GXX6Gv4k2JPWka2FXRGF4e1DGg9/1IwXNph8vVajilcVQsEl39Du7CWt59sU0 LffVwbhAJEx7JcJ2+/Xo1FfjzVD9dDqZT91JrMWj0fEHoZ7Ej+rSlLAXYIPh4MTm qvoUgwnqls8Bimc9ywwhwa49E1eqOCqdUokUibZ428v9Ryc6VKoZdohP///1vqHN DkvT0+8RrL0ONn0xOCkIH+aQ1ycNYjU7CkVDoO3Wswnb1vIL49ytPUoaWBXGRYEv VKaqNp9LNAMKy7OtE9+e1n4tkVNT8z1u4gkkgybnJOB8vzK9L/NVfCwbAOigBL81 0IEEoLxfv4dslwX4O8PLyq27zRU9Qtmbg/lFmt0PqQ== =UNpm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--