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[76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id af14sm37563387pac.13.2016.11.14.13.58.04 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Nov 2016 13:58:04 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id BC01F3ADA1BD; Mon, 14 Nov 2016 13:58:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 12 Nov 2016 17:30:20 -0500") Mail-Followup-To: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209399 Archived-At: >>>>> Richard Stallman writes: > When the developers of a free program decide which features to include, > including which platforms or interoperation to support, the question at > stake is not what uses to _allow_, but rather which uses to _facilitate_. I do see what you mean. If a volunteer is willing to give us code to support using lldb, does it then become a question of which uses to _not facilitate_? That's really what I reacting to. I totally understand not *making an effort* to support something that might inhibit the growth of gdb; but if we're in the position of receiving code to support lldb, then should the same argument be used to deny its acceptance. Or is this not what you're saying? -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2