From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
eller.helmut@gmail.com, acorallo@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some experience with the igc branch
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 13:56:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ed1xutn1.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86o7112rnq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 24 Dec 2024 14:26:33 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
>> eller.helmut@gmail.com, acorallo@gnu.org
>> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 05:03:36 +0100
>>
>> I'd prefer to send messages from handle_profiler_signal. Or something
>> equivalent to sending messages.
>
> How would that be different? If the messages arrive asynchronously
> and are handled asynchronously, that's the moral equivalent of
> signals, no?
I'm using SIGPROF below to make it more concrete. Similar for other
signals.
The idea is to get the backtrace in the SIGPROF handler, without
accessing Lisp data. That can be done, as I've tried to show.
Then place that backtrace somewhere.
In an an actor model architecture, one would use a message that contains
the backtrace and post it to a message board. I used that architecture
just as an example, because I like it a lot. In the same architecture,
typically a scheduler thread would then assign a thread to handle the
message. The handler handling the profiler message would then do what
record_backtrace today does after get_backtrace, i.e. count same
backtraces.
That's only one example architectures, of course. One can use something
else, like queues that are handled by another thread, one doesn't need a
scheduler thread, and so on, and so on. Pip's work queue is an
example.
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2024-12-22 15:40 Some experience with the igc branch Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-22 17:18 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 17:29 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 17:41 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 17:56 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 19:11 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-23 0:05 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 1:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-24 22:34 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25 4:25 ` Freezing frame with igc Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 11:19 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25 11:55 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-23 3:42 ` Some experience with the igc branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 6:27 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-22 20:29 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-22 20:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 22:26 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
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2024-12-23 14:54 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 13:35 ` Some experience with the igc branch Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 14:03 ` Discussion with MPS people Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 14:04 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 15:07 ` Some experience with the igc branch Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 15:26 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 16:03 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-12-23 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 18:48 ` Gerd Möllmann
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2024-12-23 20:30 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
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2024-12-24 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-12-24 13:42 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-24 3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 8:48 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-24 13:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 13:54 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-23 17:44 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 20:49 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 21:43 ` Helmut Eller
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2024-12-23 21:58 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-23 23:20 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
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2024-12-24 6:27 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 10:09 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 4:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 8:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 6:03 ` SIGPROF + SIGCHLD and igc Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 8:23 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-24 8:39 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 9:22 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-25 9:43 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 10:46 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-25 12:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 12:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-27 8:08 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-27 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 14:53 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-27 15:09 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-27 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 18:50 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-29 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 19:34 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-29 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 20:50 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-27 8:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-27 15:40 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-27 15:53 ` Gerd Möllmann
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2024-12-27 16:14 ` Helmut Eller
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2024-12-28 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 13:52 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-28 14:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 16:46 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-28 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-12-28 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
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