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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327835 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> What events to generate for what is of course another question. > > If we need to produce our own data, then how is using these facilities > more useful than just printing the stuff to stderr? I think Helmut answered that. It's being cheap when not used, for example. But I'm not proposing anything, at least so far, new branch incoming. Just a joke :-).