From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: OT: spam in this newsgroup Date: 13 May 2002 06:54:08 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: kindly_remove_this_part_first_jidanni@ms46.hinet.net NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1021248020 25881 127.0.0.1 (13 May 2002 00:00:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 00:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 1773GF-0006jK-00 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 02:00:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1773GR-00016l-00; Sun, 12 May 2002 20:00:31 -0400 Original-Received: from chx400.switch.ch ([130.59.10.2]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1773DF-00011v-00 for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 19:57:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.11.165]) by chx400.switch.ch with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1773DE-00074B-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org; Mon, 13 May 2002 01:57:12 +0200 Original-Received: by mail.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (160.45.10.36) with esmtp id ; Mon, 13 May 2002 01:57:08 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.fu-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Mon, 13 May 2002 01:57:08 +0200 (MEST) Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Original-Path: 61-227-47-208.hinet-ip.hinet.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 37 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 61-227-47-208.hinet-ip.hinet.net (61.227.47.208) X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1021247828 20292055 61.227.47.208 (16 [99749]) X-Orig-Path: localhost.localdomain!nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:1314 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:1314 >>>>> "e" == elf writes: e> Please write in English, because the Emacs maintainers do not e> have translators to read other languages for them. e> To address your concerns, then, any subject-line that is entirely e> non-latin-1 (?) can be considered spam. OK, but it must be entirely... however, I think that even if I say Subject: mule: I think Ął should be listed under ling2 The whole contents of the subject might become encoded even if there's only one Chinese char... >>>>> "R" == Ralf Fassel writes: R> I see _lots_ of posts in this group containing `unusual' charsets like R> Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" R> and since I'm not fluent in far-east, I wonder whether these are R> people from Korea posting genuine emacs-related questions in their own Actually it only takes about two hours to master the Korean alphabet, and one can then even make out words like Kleenex spelled in Korean. R> language or whether this is plain spam. I don't see that much of it R> in other (even emacs-related) groups, how come g.e.b. is swamped by R> this? Again, I don't mean to offend anybody, and if I'm just being R> ignorant about the world opening up, please forgive me ;-) yes, Korean Kleenex has little to do with emacs. Actually I would like folks to find better spam triggers than going the charset direction or country of origin type direction, as one day a real user will get his first bug "whitywalled" and never touch emacs again: Joe from Asia's first emacs bug report somehow triggers a spam filter, Ah, Joe says "Oh, so I come from the land of spam [ISPs], fine, sorry to unfreshen your air, it won't happen again". -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780