From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21104: 25.0.50; relative paths are added to load-path without -nsl Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:26:09 -0400 Message-ID: Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437499646 19104 80.91.229.3 (21 Jul 2015 17:27:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:27:26 +0000 (UTC) To: 21104@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 21 19:27:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJv-0006sB-OD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:27:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60471 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJu-0001LQ-Vm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:27:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36432) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJp-0001I7-J5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJm-0005Oq-8I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:27:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJm-0005Ol-5E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJl-0000LC-RN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:27:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Sam Steingold Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 21104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14374995921269 (code B ref -1); Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:27:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2015 17:26:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJG-0000KO-W4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50713) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJE-0000K8-9I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:26:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJ7-0005EQ-FF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42918) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJ7-0005EK-CF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:26:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJ5-0001Bp-Hd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:26:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbJ3-0005CQ-H4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:26:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230]:33696) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHbIy-00059J-DE; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:26:12 -0400 Original-Received: by ietj16 with SMTP id j16so148090239iet.0; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:26:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:return-receipt-to:reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qfDWEQ6FlZpsWvp0wJp27h3BriMPytCWOn47jr8SIGE=; b=l1Leji9P5Hg/w6c7m26J1U+BhCsaIDp3NVela0yfxVncD6W+pkHGDwdd5eWtml0j3A aY1mjBC9i3rwuGAVcJiwCfDsly3dQMqKgYWjRLX1Xt6XyNmHRL9zc8iUg6ETCI6EROgq RX4N0V/3EDRkiAJ1fkB1qs0tnoWaJR4lzBug8II/ydSiq5ikp4bqCQyfJHgBm1ofhexc 6Jps58SYLnE2OtTXdl9gJHT8OtXBd4inqXmdLC/2Y4W0RQ4qmPcnY1Pb5OztPiTPj4a1 g38uTyLCSrsgz11/xbEr92clPpRM4eInGDYxM1efszN7s8nZYJ4Zk4T6DoXBBni88xSE 1E/Q== X-Received: by 10.107.41.146 with SMTP id p140mr48016279iop.58.1437499570593; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from sds-MacBook-Pro.local (107-0-158-199-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. 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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105058 Archived-At: Relative paths in `load-path' seems like a bad idea: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ ./nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -nsl --batch --eval '(print loa= d-path)' ("/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/vc" "/U= sers/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/url" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/textmod= es" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/progmodes" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk= /lisp/play" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/org" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/tru= nk/lisp/nxml" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/net" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/t= runk/lisp/mh-e" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/mail" "/Users/sds/src/emac= s/trunk/lisp/leim" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/language" "/Users/sds/s= rc/emacs/trunk/lisp/international" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/gnus" "= /Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/eshell" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/er= c" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/emulation" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/= lisp/emacs-lisp" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/cedet" "/Users/sds/src/em= acs/trunk/lisp/calendar" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/calc" "/Users/sds= /src/emacs/trunk/lisp/obsolete" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/build/lisp") $ ./nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs --batch --eval '(print load-pat= h)' ("." "./vc" "./url" "./textmodes" "./progmodes" "./play" "./org" "./nxml" "= ./net" "./mh-e" "./mail" "./leim" "./language" "./international" "./gnus" "= ./eshell" "./erc" "./emulation" "./emacs-lisp" "./cedet" "./calendar" "./ca= lc" "./obsolete" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/tr= unk/lisp/vc" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/url" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/tr= unk/lisp/textmodes" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/progmodes" "/Users/sds= /src/emacs/trunk/lisp/play" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/org" "/Users/s= ds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/nxml" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/net" "/Users= /sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/mh-e" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/mail" "/Us= ers/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/leim" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/languag= e" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/international" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/tr= unk/lisp/gnus" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/eshell" "/Users/sds/src/ema= cs/trunk/lisp/erc" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/emulation" "/Users/sds/= src/emacs/trunk/lisp/emacs-lisp" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/cedet" "/= Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/calendar" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/c= alc" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/obsolete" "/Users/sds/src/emacs/trunk= /build/lisp") --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- in particular, this results in this start-up warning: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Warning (initialization): Your `load-path' seems to contain your `.emacs.d' directory: . This is likely to cause problems... Consider using a subdirectory instead, e.g.: /Users/sds/.emacs.d/lisp --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.2 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.4.0, NS appkit-1348.17 Versio= n 10.10.4 (Build 14E46)) of 2015-07-21 on sds-MacBook-Pro.local Repository revision: 7f58daf8166d03c664e5a6d1984dc3afd74e08d2 Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1348 Configured using: `configure --with-ns' Configured features: JPEG IMAGEMAGICK NOTIFY ACL LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS NS Important settings: value of $LANG: C locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: C/lah Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t rcirc-track-minor-mode: t which-function-mode: t url-handler-mode: t show-paren-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent messages: Grep finished with no matches found Quit Grep finished (matches found) mouse-2: visit this file and line [2 times] Quit mouse-2: visit this file and line Mark saved where search started [2 times] Grep finished (matches found) mouse-2: visit this file and line C-x p is undefined Load-path shadows: None found. 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