From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Filipp Gunbin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Character folding in the pretest Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 18:09:23 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87mvrg2zid.fsf@wanadoo.es> <20160204.180523.769253593641901728.wl@gnu.org> <20160205.070103.162978216111829522.wl@gnu.org> <83oabvvbkr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454685007 19689 80.91.229.3 (5 Feb 2016 15:10:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 05 16:09:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aRi1B-0005Hf-Sb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:09:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48828 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRi1A-0003VF-Oo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:09:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48910) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRi0s-0003Ur-8j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:09:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRi0o-0005qX-VF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:09:34 -0500 Original-Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:38753) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRi0o-0005pz-OW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:09:30 -0500 Original-Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB13208F0 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2016 10:09:27 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:09:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=avX225S2xzunwXYj2vwG+e/vYUQ=; b=S48pgF tCq2hba6jE49xTdipkCQ0w+qLVOVPD5hN5G643z6M/81I20FU38GzB9TxRzXPcJR pPj06wShnmTo5BEP7YRY+6+2CGJHvanvi0GMAH1D3UdtYYmw60lI9khXIPysDTFh q60HesqaSx8BWSbxkOm4cK6Xp1ctF/fSTZg+0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=avX225S2xzunwXY j2vwG+e/vYUQ=; b=afHfc8nc/YU6LfUvMbehzebB3eCxL5V+7CO8p/6X3nTp0d1 MrPuoQgb6ffTRP0wasg6Nj52rU2/0vhXrhRvM+jvBn1PzZsxu0SkR5POnCWRGA9A Nz+uBZsvKtRhY3DxvBfJot/pwkII3XWLu5F+YHOgnXH3CryLfglDXJ2FYeM4= X-Sasl-enc: Vei8t8FW2ydk0oZRemEG+UD/X8yJRU9K5RCRWo43JZr9 1454684967 Original-Received: from fgunbin.local (unknown [94.25.218.10]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D9400C00018; Fri, 5 Feb 2016 10:09:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83oabvvbkr.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 05 Feb 2016 09:52:04 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.26 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199384 Archived-At: > The idea behind the current implementation was that this feature will > be useful even when it is language-agnostic, which is the lowest level > of compatibility cited in the Unicode Standard (so the Unicode > Consortium guys didn't think it to be a stupid idea). While we have strict rules for some languages, it's very helpful to count for errors which natives and non-natives may make and fold as much as possible - if folded search gives too many false positive that may just be an indication that a more specific (not folded) search should be used. I now realize that I'd like to see folded even distinct letters like Russian =D0=95 and =D0=81 - I cannot tell in advance when the author did it correct. However, having folding on by default will certainly tell me that Emacs is not respecting Russian alphabet, which some people here wrote about too. Filipp