Question on using emacs to write html

Question on using emacs to write html

[Jeff]

I've been programming so long using emacs that other key bindings drive me
crazy. Lately I've been writing html using emacs because bluefish uses the
Microsoft bindings. Is there a way to bind keys to the insertion of common
toggle pairs, like <center></center>, <table></table>, <td></td>, <a
href=""></a>, and so on? Is there a way to have this work only in an 'html
mode'?

Just wondering.

-Jeff

Re: Question on using emacs to write html

[Kevin Rodgers]

Jeff wrote:

> I've been programming so long using emacs that other key bindings drive me
> crazy. Lately I've been writing html using emacs because bluefish uses the
> Microsoft bindings. Is there a way to bind keys to the insertion of common
> toggle pairs, like <center></center>, <table></table>, <td></td>, <a
> href=""></a>, and so on? Is there a way to have this work only in an 'html
> mode'?

html-helper-mode.el has that and a lot more:

http://www.nongnu.org/baol-hth/index.html

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

Re: Question on using emacs to write html

[Tim McNamara]

Jeff <jeffrey@cunningham.net> writes:

> I've been programming so long using emacs that other key bindings
> drive me crazy. Lately I've been writing html using emacs because
> bluefish uses the Microsoft bindings. Is there a way to bind keys to
> the insertion of common toggle pairs, like <center></center>,
> <table></table>, <td></td>, <a href=""></a>, and so on? Is there a
> way to have this work only in an 'html mode'?

Try "html-helper-mode" which works like a charm.  It has a menu (with
associated key bindings) for most tags and such.  You can even select
a string and html-helper-mode will place the opening and closing tags
in their proper places.  Trick!

The only trouble I've had- and it's *really* minor- is that it spends
a bit of time fontifying files, not much of a problem except on big
files.  html-helper-mode colors tags and text very nicely and it's
easy to see the structure of the document.  I haven't tried it with
jit-lock or lazy-lock, which might speed up that fontifying.

There are a number of HTML/XML/SGML type modes available.  XML-mode
works OK, I prefer html-helper-mode (although XML-mode has a menu
item for previewing the buffer in a browser, which is really handy
for checking quickly and easily on the effects of any changes to the
code; I should suggest this for html-helper-mode, unless the
maintainer sees this before I get around to it).

Re: Question on using emacs to write html

[Jeff]

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:29:17 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:

> Try "html-helper-mode" which works like a charm.  It has a menu (with
> associated key bindings) for most tags and such.  You can even select a
> string and html-helper-mode will place the opening and closing tags in
> their proper places.  Trick!
> 
> The only trouble I've had- and it's *really* minor- is that it spends a
> bit of time fontifying files, not much of a problem except on big files.
>  html-helper-mode colors tags and text very nicely and it's easy to see
> the structure of the document.  I haven't tried it with jit-lock or
> lazy-lock, which might speed up that fontifying.
> 
> There are a number of HTML/XML/SGML type modes available.  XML-mode
> works OK, I prefer html-helper-mode (although XML-mode has a menu item
> for previewing the buffer in a browser, which is really handy for
> checking quickly and easily on the effects of any changes to the code; I
> should suggest this for html-helper-mode, unless the maintainer sees
> this before I get around to it).


Hey, thanks you guys. I'm grabbing it now. Glad I asked.

-Jeff

Re: Question on using emacs to write html

[Gian Uberto Lauri]

>>>>> "TM" == Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> writes:

TM> Jeff <jeffrey@cunningham.net> writes:
>> I've been programming so long using emacs that other key bindings
>> drive me crazy. Lately I've been writing html using emacs because
>> bluefish uses the Microsoft bindings. Is there a way to bind keys
>> to the insertion of common toggle pairs, like <center></center>,
>> <table></table>, <td></td>, <a href=""></a>, and so on? Is there a
>> way to have this work only in an 'html mode'?

TM> Try "html-helper-mode" which works like a charm.  It has a menu
TM> (with associated key bindings) for most tags and such.  You can
TM> even select a string and html-helper-mode will place the opening
TM> and closing tags in their proper places.  Trick!

When it works well it's all Nelson Minar's credit!

TM> The only trouble I've had- and it's *really* minor- is that it
TM> spends a bit of time fontifying files, not much of a problem
TM> except on big files.  html-helper-mode colors tags and text very
TM> nicely and it's easy to see the structure of the document.  I
TM> haven't tried it with jit-lock or lazy-lock, which might speed up
TM> that fontifying.

Hmmm... Calling it *really* minor  is a BIG kindness. I still consider
html-helper-mode a  kluge (RMS kindly  said that some things  could be
done in an easier way...)

Anyway,  the  latest released  version  is  available  (should be)  at
http://www.nongnu.org/baol-hth/index.html while the  project url is at
https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/baol-hth/

(baol is the logname I use when saint is not available)

WARNING!

Under Emacs  21 html-helper-mode is  known to hang Emacs  with certain
(JSP/ASP/PHP) files.

Consider server-side code fontification as "broken" under Emacs 21 and
this trouble could happen with  multiline blocks. I fear that the code
is too slow to finish the job before the jit starts it again.

Disabling JIT could be an UGLY workaround.

Work is  in progress to fix  it, actually the CVS  version on savannah
works  except some  features (like  tag  attributes -  namely all  the
font-lock-keywords stuff) are lost and doesn't highlight the last tag.

My apologies.

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Re: Question on using emacs to write html

[Jeff]

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:14:55 +0000, Jeff wrote:

I've been playing with html-helper-mode and its pretty slick. I've only
run into one problem so far - I'm running Enlightenment which has the
M-Tab key bound to paging through desktop apps. This is a problem, because
completion is going to be very important here I can see already. I don't
know at the moment if there's a way to alter Enlightenment's bindings. I
never use it that way anyway. Hmmm. 

-Jeff

Re: Question on using emacs to write html

[Jeff]

Well, that was easy. Took about five minutes of Googling to find an answer
to that. I disabled M-Tab in Enlightenment and now I'm really cooking with
emacs. 

Thanks a bunch.

-Jeff

Re: Question on using emacs to write html

[Oliver Scholz]

Jeff <jeffrey@cunningham.net> writes:

> Well, that was easy. Took about five minutes of Googling to find an answer
> to that. I disabled M-Tab in Enlightenment and now I'm really cooking with
> emacs. 
[...]

FYI: If disabling M-Tab in the WM isn't an option, you can also type
`C-M-i'.

    Oliver
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