From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chris Patterson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Compiling emacs23 on OS X Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:22:47 -0600 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218385986 16448 80.91.229.12 (10 Aug 2008 16:33:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:33:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 10 18:33:58 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KSDrb-0003bC-I0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:33:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46914 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSDqf-0005oi-NJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:32:53 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:22:48 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:eKulGLoDk507ettmVfcp3xs6KwI= Original-Lines: 30 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 98.202.155.243 Original-X-Trace: sv3-AE1jH3rj2zR8eVGQr2m3POhcL4Nk/o10ejvUhtKC07AKkKW2PNLL/FDrxFG4zgUhasiOBs49MOO+98a!ipDqjcvhf43V9hbdbE7CkycXNEUjBccClk+Nue+WujL9FfCEkwV+NmRqX0Q9zN4BV8OXlHwuyqBt!6BzfeA5uzje9uME= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.39 Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:161062 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:21:24 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56413 Archived-At: Mark Hood writes: > Peter Dyballa writes: >> Am 07.08.2008 um 02:00 schrieb Nurullah Akkaya: >> > as i was searching i saw a post from carbon emacs mailing list that >> > said mac port is removed. Is this true or did i just hit a bug in the cvs >> > version? >> >> Recently no Carbon Emacs variant can be built from Emacs 23 code. For >> Mac OS X you can, besides an X11 client, built a Cocoa or Aqua >> variant: --with-ns (--disable-ns-self-contained). > > I use Carbon Emacs 22 on Mac OSX but I'm not familiar with Cocoa. Can > you explain what this means for Emacs 23? > > I tried using the Aqua variant but couldn't get the hang of it -- too > much of standard Emacs key bindings and interface have migrated into > the firmware of my brain. Does the Cocoa variant use the standard > lean Emacs interface? Or does this mean I'll be on 22 for the rest of > my Mac days (unless I run an X11 server)? > > Thanks -- Mark I had the same concerns, but once I relocated the meta key back to the command key (where carbon emacs has it) via the preferences pane I have found that emacs.app is quite usable. You won't find that there is much of a learning curve, either, as opposed to aquamacs. Emacs.app is far closer to Carbon Emacs than Aquamacs (at least from the user's perspective).