From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Martyn Jago Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:57:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877h4mpqg2.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org> <87wrcmxwg2.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <4E89D150.8060805@easy-emacs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317675494 27951 80.91.229.12 (3 Oct 2011 20:58:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:58:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 22:58:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RApaU-0006jA-6b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:58:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60867 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RApaT-0003Hy-Mt for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:58:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55862) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RApaP-0003Hf-DK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:58:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RApaO-0003iv-D9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:58:05 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:36172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RApaO-0003ig-4D for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:58:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RApaM-0006dU-JK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:58:02 +0200 Original-Received: from 88-96-171-138.dsl.zen.co.uk ([88.96.171.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:58:02 +0200 Original-Received: from martyn.jago by 88-96-171-138.dsl.zen.co.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:58:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88-96-171-138.dsl.zen.co.uk User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8RBjy/4SWNNys3O+ZQXmJq6v2Vs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82429 Archived-At: Andreas Röhler writes: [...] > Hi Tassilo, > > I'm in favor of the change now, but was against the feature years ago. > That might be just a personal story. > > Habits differ. And not just differ, but differ in a way, some times > you can't explain that by rationality. > > Even if in favor of the change now, think Ian's argument is valid. > > Preparing decision by such a poll is a very good idea BTW, > > thanks all > > Andreas +1 Personally, if it wasn't for org-mode showing me how creative you can really get with Emacs key-strokes, I may well have moved on/out ~ instead I now have dynamic keystrokes that do all manner of things org stylee. The fact is ~ if you don't like it, the setting of a single flag will make your world right. No? And you know very well how to do it. There are much better battles to have, and I'm all for encouraging new blood. Best, Martyn