From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23067: 25.0.92; A detail in the doc of query-replace Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:06:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87oaa9vrdz.fsf@web.de> <83k2kq27j0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459030042 14929 80.91.229.3 (26 Mar 2016 22:07:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de To: 23067@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 26 23:07:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ajwMQ-0005ac-F1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 23:07:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33849 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajwMP-0006SP-9g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 18:07:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50423) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajwML-0006SG-PQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 18:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajwMI-0005ne-K2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 18:07:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41841) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajwMI-0005nL-Gb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 18:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ajwMI-00022e-Bo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 18:07:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: John Wiegley Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23067.14590299797791 (code B ref 23067); Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2016 22:06:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38968 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ajwLb-00021b-JU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 18:06:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com ([209.85.220.54]:36847) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ajwLZ-00021N-OD for 23067@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 18:06:18 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id tt10so70138971pab.3 for <23067@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:06:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=oiPNVaojJFmsy+NnGhJqdppaXRZqRUG2TemB20LzIdo=; b=VMrLydTs3SEM3JEMbR0N/uCMw8pMdluCTbxREF1hHa9ciCW86M9qJpKk/W4TiTyoIq h2WkvmaikLNDPOX8zEhFHvIGIxAwZH8fNC8PUha4AwzAhgOh2v2pLuhnzP5uBQf4SfDK KeO6pjQu+pvRWLPX91QF7NFqKCmNgIy/7j2rHb4HTEo7DEubJbtdvkTbQAb5/tdpFg7N OsZQJYFsz/969G41uY26oNvZ9QE2tr46wc7kAp1WJjUJUuFWZdZY0Zw4DN6RejAMLGEK cxhk12tKIOUvQLdCjwrSkUXKxnR1BoS0Lt+R0wsugoHVgW+cj3EU+LsyaCZw9ngwiRti jKfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=oiPNVaojJFmsy+NnGhJqdppaXRZqRUG2TemB20LzIdo=; b=kCwr12S1/FDBooV/dR0TQJp9XaI5DH8DK43JJvbYxW3JmgfWLx1vS/qS1LhVa4PxrY JU6DYcRn0PDlOl1KwAQ1K7gqd52Q1GW/1mTjS4RYCLMq7YV5aSp6I8Eh2xvkCHcH9Ljl 6OvYu94xT6axyPAxzRBCsJ39dOPI8vAQ2kgu6IlbjOGaHYEsq3nAs9YDG8Hh7xK9whT/ 40gDqyg0U3SeweiFcLhN1OJcOfSf3Jb/SKoth+4dk9sJe6LQBaLI01jD8eoSp7VV/X/R UbnlGM01jzr3j2+Z4/kx8Tkg78SGxNKALWFoUHzKddZl7Ka5CFtnyQ64Cz+w67zuSdiM EIOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJINJQuBsqGznznhwuc4dB6nlM1v+7Y3yd9bcFugfiffecYHKAc3eGsZSXaGDatMiw== X-Received: by 10.66.190.229 with SMTP id gt5mr31547618pac.118.1459029972117; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Hermes.local (mail.johnwiegley.com. [208.82.103.192]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 88sm25182974pfj.20.2016.03.26.15.06.11 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:06:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Hermes.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id DE6244FB3C21; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:06:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83k2kq27j0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2016 13:09:39 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.92 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115522 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > However, I must say that it makes very little sense to me to make such > corrections only in a couple of functions, when we have gobs of them with > the same problem in the doc strings, so much so that I wonder whether "end > of buffer" isn't already a widely accepted synonym of "end of the buffer's > accessible portion", and we shouldn't bother, certainly not with fixing that > one function at a time. I won't be surprised if the same issue has crept in > the manuals as well. I agree, Eli. Why I applaud the desire for correctness, if something in our documentation isn't actively producing user confusion, there is no pressing need to be pedantic. I think "End of buffer" is colloquially understood to be where M-> takes you, and I've never found myself troubled by the fact that, at times, there might be more text after that point. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2