bug#27991: 26.0.50; TRAMP on OSX to Windows: smbclient not available

bug#27991: 26.0.50; TRAMP on OSX to Windows: smbclient not available

[James Nguyen]

This might be a duplicate bug report:

I'm trying to use TRAMP from OSX and it looks like smbclient is not available
anymore.

I tried using 'smbutil' instead and it doesn't seem to be a one to one match.

(setq tramp-smb-program "smbutil")

Here are just some errors,

/usr/bin/smbutil: illegal option -- g
smbutil: invalid option ?

usage: smbutil [-hv] subcommand [args]
where subcommands are:
 help		display help on specified subcommand
 lookup 	resolve NetBIOS name to IP address
 status 	resolve IP address or DNS name to NetBIOS names
 view		list resources on specified host
 dfs		list DFS referrals
 identity	identity of the user as known by the specified host
 statshares	list the attributes of mounted share(s)


Process *tramp/smb name@host* exited abnormally with code 1


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bug#27991: 26.0.50; TRAMP on OSX to Windows: smbclient not available

[Michael Albinus]

James Nguyen <james@jojojames.com> writes:

> This might be a duplicate bug report:
>
> I'm trying to use TRAMP from OSX and it looks like smbclient is not available
> anymore.

Maybe it is still there, but at another location. In this case, you
could say

(setq tramp-smb-program "/path/to/smbclient")

> I tried using 'smbutil' instead and it doesn't seem to be a one to one match.
>
> (setq tramp-smb-program "smbutil")

smbutil is another program, not compatible with smbclient. So it is
expected to fail.

If there is no smbclient program on your machine, there is nothing
Emacs/Tramp could do for you.

Best regards, Michael.

bug#27991: 26.0.50; TRAMP on OSX to Windows: smbclient not available

[James Nguyen]

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

I'm wondering if we should at least characterize the situation for
TRAMP+OSX+Windows. If the new OSX versions don't have an smbclient
(and that's what I'm assuming) anymore, then although it's not an Emacs
problem, it's at least a 'good to know' and if someone were interested,
they'd be able to look and see if they can shoehorn something else to
get the TRAMP interaction between the two working again.

To clarify, at this point, I'm not sure if it's a problem on my end, a
known issue, a problem with Emacs (unlikely), on Apple, etc.

If someone with a recent version of OSX can chime in, that'd be great!

Thanks for replying Michael.

> James Nguyen <james@jojojames.com> writes:
>
>> This might be a duplicate bug report:
>>
>> I'm trying to use TRAMP from OSX and it looks like smbclient is not available
>> anymore.
>
> Maybe it is still there, but at another location. In this case, you
> could say
>
> (setq tramp-smb-program "/path/to/smbclient")
>
>> I tried using 'smbutil' instead and it doesn't seem to be a one to one match.
>>
>> (setq tramp-smb-program "smbutil")
>
> smbutil is another program, not compatible with smbclient. So it is
> expected to fail.
>
> If there is no smbclient program on your machine, there is nothing
> Emacs/Tramp could do for you.
>
> Best regards, Michael.

bug#27991: 26.0.50; TRAMP on OSX to Windows: smbclient not available

[Michael Albinus]

James Nguyen <james@jojojames.com> writes:

Hi James,

> I'm wondering if we should at least characterize the situation for
> TRAMP+OSX+Windows. If the new OSX versions don't have an smbclient
> (and that's what I'm assuming) anymore, then although it's not an Emacs
> problem, it's at least a 'good to know' and if someone were interested,
> they'd be able to look and see if they can shoehorn something else to
> get the TRAMP interaction between the two working again.

OK, so I keep this bug open for a week or so, before I'll close
it. However, I doubt that many people read all bug reports on Emacs. You
better ask in parallel on the tramp-devel@gnu.org or emacs-devel@gnu.org
or help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing lists.

> Thanks for replying Michael.

Best regards, Michael.

bug#27991: 26.0.50; TRAMP on OSX to Windows: smbclient not available

[Alan Third]

On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 05:07:45PM -0700, James Nguyen wrote:
> To clarify, at this point, I'm not sure if it's a problem on my end, a
> known issue, a problem with Emacs (unlikely), on Apple, etc.
> 
> If someone with a recent version of OSX can chime in, that'd be great!

I don’t have smbclient either, and a quick look about the ’net implies
it’s not been available on macOS since at least 2012.

Homebrew have removed their samba package because modern versions
don’t build on macOS, so that’s not even an option.

It seems the only way to access SMB shares is to mount them.
-- 
Alan Third

bug#27991: 26.0.50; TRAMP on OSX to Windows: smbclient not available

[Michael Albinus]

Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org> writes:

Hi Alan,

> On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 05:07:45PM -0700, James Nguyen wrote:
>> To clarify, at this point, I'm not sure if it's a problem on my end, a
>> known issue, a problem with Emacs (unlikely), on Apple, etc.
>> 
>> If someone with a recent version of OSX can chime in, that'd be great!
>
> I don’t have smbclient either, and a quick look about the ’net implies
> it’s not been available on macOS since at least 2012.
>
> Homebrew have removed their samba package because modern versions
> don’t build on macOS, so that’s not even an option.

So we can assume that Samba cannot be used on macOS.

> It seems the only way to access SMB shares is to mount them.

Well, Tramp offers another way to access SMB shares via
tramp-gvfs.el. But this requires, that GVFS and D-Bus are installed on
macOS. Don't know whether this is possible.

Best regards, Michael.

bug#27991: 26.0.50; TRAMP on OSX to Windows: smbclient not available

[James Nguyen]

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

Thanks, I will look into gvfs at some point.

> Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org> writes:
>
> Hi Alan,
>
>> On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 05:07:45PM -0700, James Nguyen wrote:
>>> To clarify, at this point, I'm not sure if it's a problem on my end, a
>>> known issue, a problem with Emacs (unlikely), on Apple, etc.
>>> 
>>> If someone with a recent version of OSX can chime in, that'd be great!
>>
>> I don’t have smbclient either, and a quick look about the ’net implies
>> it’s not been available on macOS since at least 2012.
>>
>> Homebrew have removed their samba package because modern versions
>> don’t build on macOS, so that’s not even an option.
>
> So we can assume that Samba cannot be used on macOS.
>
>> It seems the only way to access SMB shares is to mount them.
>
> Well, Tramp offers another way to access SMB shares via
> tramp-gvfs.el. But this requires, that GVFS and D-Bus are installed on
> macOS. Don't know whether this is possible.
>
> Best regards, Michael.

bug#27991: 26.0.50; TRAMP on OSX to Windows: smbclient not available

[Michael Albinus]

James Nguyen <james@jojojames.com> writes:

> Thanks, I will look into gvfs at some point.

OK, I'm closing the bug. Feel free to contact us if you need further help.

Best regards, Michael.