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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217716 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "PE" =3D=3D Paul Eggert writes: PE> The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the she= ep PE> thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for = the PE> same act.... Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a PE> definition of the word liberty. That's a great example, Paul. Not sure I see it fitting our legal discussion (which has more complex dimensions), but I like how it clarifies the importance of "point of view". I'll desist from further debate on emacs-devel about licensure, however, si= nce I don't want anyone to confuse my opinions as an individual with my role as= an FSF project maintainer. I have no issue with Emacs choosing to use the GPL, and have always licensed my own contributions to Emacs under the same. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEE3lW3afxXihSlvlQwwUTY9PGf5jAFAlmdGQUACgkQwUTY9PGf 5jDrgAv+K43qXOPHCbLmb2hAI6YfwpBIv+lgIr9SO2VlE47UOf4MXl8M59zR+Eeu F3fmA/ahv4cc41LP1sWS5yHgs3C92iyMJetvFhBT4/5IiH2fbPAgfJHOqU9IoRg2 QpwQUCD8PeuKEm3eb+Jjn98K00VEm4QyjTvSGIQHVNtdTTpAu3ZpKmiLV7MseiWZ UYYpFWyI5erbJZn7Jog1MEbkclxdtfiQcq4TQ5NbE3y0YVa7MSwUlQfyIjsQugqq xVp14+mSdH4CRHKV116XqVHcDr1hBE/iEDE2S81R1WFUKX3MyhJA4k36sGGsIWTo rp14eZCYy5QyBddbYEJB1lT8ToHn2W/RrhdMZ8Ip8tVMbu9TzTu1qMYXlueP8uHi uRPW6se4mznZx6NLCo0yj8E08GsN1BD/PEro7o+jkWueEyDEK5DgWrX6oJXXDAVR esP+g1PLxsUN86Zklu/VrHW75Hv35+MCF14gqOdP2sSRvH9YI0v3plS+p7VXz3xp pmaUMpAv =dmWa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--