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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 36717@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Alessi <alessi@robertalessi.net>
Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:27:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2blxqqvig.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83tvbiv7dp.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:57:38 +0300")

>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:57:38 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said:

    Eli> We could ask on the Unicode mailing list.  There are Unicode experts
    Eli> there, and they are quite friendly.  If someone can come up with a
    Eli> comprehensive description of our situation and the issues we are
    Eli> trying to resolve, please write to unicode@unicode.org, and ask the
    Eli> questions.

I think reading <https://www.unicode.org/faq/greek.html> helps
some. My understanding of the situation is that the basic Greek block
should be used, rather than the extended Greek block, for the LETTER +
OXIA/TONOS combinations (and the extended block versions all decompose
to characters in the basic block + a combining mark).

To me that implies that the Greek input methods should use GREEK TONOS
(\u384) consistently rather then GREEK OXIA (\u1ffd), but I couldn't
see any explicit mention of that, and at least in my font they're
visually distinct.

Thereʼs also <http://www.opoudjis.net/unicode/unicode.html>, but
thatʼs much longer, so I only read the bit about oxia vs tonos, and it
also has nothing to say on which to use when inserting only the
accenting character itself.

Robert





  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-19  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-18  9:03 bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 14:54 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 17:32   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:06     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 18:47       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:57         ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 20:14           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:32           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  6:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19  8:27               ` Robert Pluim [this message]
2019-07-19  9:09                 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:27                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 14:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 14:41                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 14:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 14:52                         ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 15:00                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 15:14                             ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 14:45                       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  8:58               ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  9:26                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19  9:42                   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  9:49                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 10:03                       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 11:49                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 13:32                           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:31                           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 14:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-16 13:59                               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-07-19 13:29                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 13:33                           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19  9:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19  9:54                   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:47                       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:19     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 20:19       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:52         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 18:16   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 18:47     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 20:27       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:23     ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  9:40     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 18:16 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 20:29   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:40   ` Eli Zaretskii

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