From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leon Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tooltips and menus Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 20:34:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148240068 14170 80.91.229.2 (21 May 2006 19:34:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 19:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 21 21:34:26 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fhth1-0004Cm-7M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 21:34:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fhth0-00022F-Hc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 15:34:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fhtgp-00021o-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 15:34:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fhtgm-00021b-H5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 15:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fhtgm-00021Y-E7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 15:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Fhtkb-00043k-P3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 15:38:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Fhtgk-0004AR-KW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 21:34:06 +0200 Original-Received: from sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.202]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 21:34:06 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 21:34:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEAAAAASCAMAAADc8SgQAAAAwFBMVEUCBQEJDAgTFRIaHBof IB4jJCIrLCotLywyNDE3OTY8Pjs/QD5FRkRJS0hRU1BWV1VbXVpiZGFnaWZrbWptb2xvcW52eHV5 enh+gH2Bg4CHiYaLjYqNj4yRk5CXmZaanJmdn5ygop+mqKWqrKmsrqutr6yxs7CztbK4ure7vbq/ wb7DxcLHycbJy8jNz8vQ0s/T1dLW2NXc3tvf4d7h5ODl5+Po6ufr7enu8O3x8/Dz9fL1+PT4+vf6 /Pn7/fr+//wGuxWtAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAALEwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH1gIaAyMw1+FInQAAAXxJ REFUOMulk+tygjAQhalFWodYvIwyiNUKA95QVLwQhLPv/1ZNAKWX8Yd6ZsLAZvdL9iQo9KSUx0v3 0wV/BjDSzZY6exxw0BJgrqaPApBtQeDK6eEdAGJ4DQhAZjFmWVZf798LmTUi6QGgmQCysHtfeWa1 OXITj8pMYrh9Vz03vmQbEuArMeETSZBPpIdKvMg9B2faL2NKgl3R/zZIuFZnjDW5bKGnrVfmROLk 5LhWqVmEbEcfu8u3+XD14YrvjeEsWRrlyj3QDN/To6u96VVJmkdO40AJAVU4ZQqfInWDhcpRSABi ZQ4MQYusPJ9KRSDhtgEclROBjQhGK8+hfMgdeMICSpGaRf6iU8kuiUzwnXdQ/BJleJ38/pnQ0yUJ g8JDbOxKbnlgtZDQ7Ql/GGzUxZnR7ngBxEHdCMP1rKOD/rVQhlY18aL5BMuczmncTmJnkF4AO9/3 PN9z3e3tW3uciodzFm58LcUCwWgS4drC39Vu3XsqbMu7/Zn8DYna+irHnqnQAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:CtKzFer6o21jFqndkEOwe8MTTFY= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:54969 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > While navigating menus, I find that tooltips are a pain because they > often obscure part of the menu. They don't obscure the menu item that > the mouse is on, but they obscure the item below it. And when the > mouse is on an item that leads to another menu, such as Help -> More > Manuals, sometimes the tooltip obscures part of the submenu, which is > a real pain. > > I suppose it is impossible to position tooltips in a way that can > never obscure what the user wants to see next. But is it possible to > determine where the submenu is, and avoid obscuring that? > > GNU Emacs 22.0.50.48 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2006-05-03 on ututo-xs Display tooptips in minibuffer would be nice:-) -- Leon