From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Issues with emacs Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 18:57:59 -0500 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <87bokbb4zw.fsf@gnu.org> <83086e1d-d66a-4e0c-95a7-92d10a6de7e7@f8g2000pbf.googlegroups.com> <87r4t3krun.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1340762416 27575 80.91.229.3 (27 Jun 2012 02:00:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 02:00:16 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 27 04:00:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SjhYC-0006z7-Tx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:00:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46734 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SjhYC-0001Xl-TX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:00:12 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:58:18 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9xd6Z1BI5Ibv5FsjnRysmlk4w8M= Original-Lines: 14 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-X-Trace: sv3-K9Tqcw0BPMCfFDeBmPQuRNVk3Biw4qvyQ9/dEkp0vYzhUl7ntOA5ySx4WGGf8T5zUddQ/iqBOIMhobI!dfrq4R9OmAuR5nIURWvIEDNrWnFeJbvLfEvUAUcpjvJBVDFH+OuTmn5czA== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2319 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:193106 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85500 Archived-At: >>>>> notbob writes: > Does emacs REALLY need MORE features!? It's already so complex, now, as to > seem almost unfathomable to many. What emacs needs is some refining, > perhaps even some simplification. Bear in mind that Emacs is layered, with much of that layering in Lisp and completely optional. If you built and ran only "temacs" (which gets built when you "make" in the Emacs build tree), I think that would satisfy every desire you ever had for Emacs to be simple -- to a fault. John