From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Redirecting messages Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 10:57:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446826275 16217 80.91.229.3 (6 Nov 2015 16:11:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Oleh , emacs-devel To: Artur Malabarba Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 06 17:11:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZujbY-0008Ey-T4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:11:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39716 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZujbY-0006Mj-Jn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 11:11:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43888) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuja6-0004mA-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 11:09:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuja3-00086J-5v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 11:09:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::231]:34384) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuja3-000868-0u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 11:09:35 -0500 Original-Received: by vkgs66 with SMTP id s66so17354185vkg.1 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 08:09:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=mJscDupMFj1cNhNUHzO+lcFYvT+gb3HfyobifEy8Uas=; b=bJfz2EJxXDYJfJ2DVHDb72rkTYcEziAeoqATdHUQ59zSsIr1BUvOWiup9JmQVlNNho fPMQeRFMYoBofgzPLxn+hoHEqQfAWNanoYlkfU5Lu9w6bcEcRki52Gsn+OhF4Xw6UlvW GY96yqcYcqyO/DQlUeOLpuPIwVJwFpkva1zhCOTu8cEFYC9149V3wf9CC6Lc5/vai67C VUEnk/27zBROiOiTEJo1H76e1mxVXQEe5hcT+A9JMB/jJfN5WvknXc8PE+N5hmE0J3MZ Fssq10kPhcguqxwBL5nk0Vm7lw5l18gway4zFisd5aAtku37n9sRxMxg5Bn38lBZH5OF Armg== X-Received: by 10.31.169.9 with SMTP id s9mr14425550vke.103.1446826174655; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 08:09:34 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Hermes-2.local ([216.57.92.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w5sm651640vkw.2.2015.11.06.08.09.31 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Nov 2015 08:09:32 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Hermes-2.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4447F48F2AA6; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 11:09:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Artur Malabarba's message of "Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:23:49 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Artur Malabarba , emacs-devel , Oleh X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193447 Archived-At: >>>>> Artur Malabarba writes: > I don't think users will want to turn every single message into a desktop > notification. The `message' function has always been a very non-intrusive > approach, so it's used in very spammy ways sometimes. I agree, Artur. alerts are meant to be "things you should be aware of", while `messages' are often used for informational data you don't need to know about until you read the activity trace in *Messages*. That said, if we define message = alert, we could make the default severity be `trivial', so that alert = message. Only severities above, say, normal, would cause desktop notifications to begin by default. Another thing we could do is automatically tag all messages based on the feature they originated from. That way, users could choose to escalate messages based on REGEXP+FEATURE, allowing packages that do not provide severity information to be retroactively treated as if they had. John