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I don't want to be > overwhelmed by 100s or 1000s of packages. Perhaps we could have some kind= of > installation counter to find useful packages. Or even some kind of voting > system. Certainly, this is a matter of wisdom on the part of package submitters. Egregious exceptions will need to be considered on a case-by-case basis. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJWw3xrAAoJEMFE2PTxn+YwAD8MAKtVuOD2+ono4RLHCTIVLuVf pNr33EkQedBoC76rdZm/mRGuy9NgQcFPRADz8J9I4BeTs6DqoKlURFo3iNnM0J2i BLHEqxQ5/0Y9yhG8xC1OvtjTH06acg0TcdM51brA2s3EB5ErbJutdypgq1yi5r5T gAfklNaX5t0eRtZEwk0/cZBMZttbXIv4Jgv6bzA9/sBEww7/AV0IsWCfUbF1yjZT IeZywN6Aw3YxhqBsS3uIY/hTbnt7u7HKiTAyODbsbOu+dd0HqQTz8tS3enD3akID mc4BwCZI20fMbm7Eckp1evWFuIwTwYk3VhphAxHnmzyJUip2b9iZdT5N8ihbARhs r2PJNKNOhNmeps/N+SohqFhux2hEGfTWCL8zteL+uq1N0ZJk1CIAJv1YYwYVuiyH +uD2ECYRo9fpTurSphYSTSvuiLj/jGsiGZsXWz5OBeaW+jMowX9JI0rq8CCIdyz0 6X3Mp/2Zjb5SfouKFMmxMa5Y4qeJmp9xtTmbrUetBA== =AmYi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--