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From: burton@openprivacy.org (Kevin A. Burton (burtonator))
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] XSLT-process 2.2 available
Date: 16 Jan 2003 22:12:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m28yxktidg.fsf@openprivacy.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873cnr1az0.fsf@pooh-sticks-bridge.tapsellferrier.co.uk>

Nic Ferrier <nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk> writes:

> burton@openprivacy.org (Kevin A. Burton (burtonator)) writes:
> 
> > Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> > 
> > >     I would bet good money that Xalan will not compile on GCJ.  It might
> > >     require some modifications to get working.  I wanted to spend some time
> > >     documenting the difference between GCJ and JDK 1.4 and will do that in a
> > >     month or so when I port over NewsMonster.
> > >
> > > Is anyone interested in trying Xalan in GCJ and seeing if it does work?
> > >
> > > We can't consider XSLT-process as a legitimate part of the free software world
> > > if it needs JDK to run.  Fixing this ought to be the highest priority.
> > 
> > Give me a little time... it is on my list of things to do but I need about 3-4
> > weeks to get around to it.
> > 
> > Getting Xalan working on GCJ and a Free Software environment is of high priority
> > for me too.  Very high priority...
> 
> Out of interest: Why aren't you just using libxml/libxslt from the GNU
> project?
<snip/>

A number of reasons... Xalan and Xerces are literally the best XML/XSLT impls I
have ever played with.  They also support an advanced plugin/extension API and I
can do really amazing things with them under Java.

As is the case Java is not Free Software which makes the situation bad.  For a
while there I was taking a balanced approach (this was a decision I made 5 years
ago btw) and I think it is the perfect example of why people should NEVER use
non-free software.

My current goals are to move go GCJ and encourage SUN to do the right thing when
it comes to Java and make it Free Software.

This is a *big* move for me as I have use a lot of the libraries under Jakarta
(I used to be a fulltime developer there) and a lot of them require code from
the standard JDK.

Of course part of my migration to GCJ is going to be working on the stdlib so
that I can compile complex appls like Xalan on GCJ.

Kevin

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-17  6:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-08 17:40 [ANNOUNCE] XSLT-process 2.2 available Ovidiu Predescu
2003-01-09 23:13 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-10  2:21   ` Ovidiu Predescu
2003-01-11  0:21     ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-11 20:58       ` Ovidiu Predescu
2003-01-15  6:14     ` Kevin A. Burton (burtonator)
2003-01-18  0:47       ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-17  5:15         ` Kevin A. Burton (burtonator)
2003-01-18  1:51           ` Nic Ferrier
2003-01-17  6:12             ` Kevin A. Burton (burtonator) [this message]
2003-01-18  2:28               ` Nic Ferrier
2003-01-17 15:18                 ` Kevin A. Burton (burtonator)
2003-01-18  4:58           ` Ovidiu Predescu
2003-01-19  1:36           ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-19  5:42         ` Ovidiu Predescu
2003-01-20  0:50           ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-20 15:54             ` md5i
2003-01-20 16:40               ` Ovidiu Predescu
2003-01-20 20:08                 ` Jason Rumney
2003-01-21 18:18                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-22  7:29                   ` Kevin A. Burton (burtonator)
2003-01-25 19:22                     ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-24  1:18 Mark Wielaard
2003-01-25 19:22 ` Richard Stallman

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