From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: temacs Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 11:51:24 -0500 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <87bokbb4zw.fsf@gnu.org> <83086e1d-d66a-4e0c-95a7-92d10a6de7e7@f8g2000pbf.googlegroups.com> <87r4t3krun.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <811ul1ds60.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <83zk7e2x5f.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341679901 3800 80.91.229.3 (7 Jul 2012 16:51:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 16:51:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 07 18:51:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SnYEL-0001K2-5o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 18:51:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49827 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnYEK-0001v8-5l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:51:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnYEF-0001uj-2M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:51:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnYED-0005d2-3Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:51:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gg0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169]:49887) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnYEC-0005cg-Sd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:51:29 -0400 Original-Received: by ggm4 with SMTP id 4so10829312ggm.0 for ; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 09:51:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:organization:references:mail-followup-to :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=GnQZ5vRk1xJTjjExYOGk5xEmGIgbCGKZiApcs0ukjpU=; b=Ixryiro6K5sboLpv+Tb5p8kMTTWEZXcdj/mNqa7SjW3jC3Zl8N7GtkYB/cwwMvhxf5 Yv8uqJL4TC5dX9/JcCFPXKV1nXOLiZdLbUH78dCwJa5O4BsLPig63bwewor30aMGXMxZ 6Vb8eGwrjZo4Jih8aULNTNOBSHTqhB5rWBEi4LuwNexyESLvUJd0CubrrYm5IZe+ktry SPq/WIk16e5qGCujc7uhqOLjTGQiPGkvuai7yBGtSIGkJvM8eLpH8LX2XuPpK2Kv49XN O0go6VbwjPRyQ0MyG3D+a0EtUjCC2XeeqJxmoC37MbMTfgnlJhBps+2Ku67ncJLk3/bX rMbA== Original-Received: by 10.50.100.129 with SMTP id ey1mr4871593igb.35.1341679886604; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 09:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from vulcan.local (c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.215.105.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id va9sm5015068igb.17.2012.07.07.09.51.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 Jul 2012 09:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id EB02AF2BFFBC; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 11:51:24 -0500 (CDT) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <83zk7e2x5f.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:46:36 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.161.169 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85717 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> temacs basically has only the C-implemented Lisp functions available. > This is false. When you run temacs, it begins by loading all of loadup.el, > which basically is everything the dumped Emacs has. Really? I thought that only happened during dumping because the Makefile explicit does "./temacs -batch -l loadup dump". If it always loads loadup, then why the -l loadup? John