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From: Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 22300@debbugs.gnu.org, John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#22300: 25.1.50; Dired -- renaming folders/files to CamelCase/UPPERCASE/lowercase.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 19:56:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m28u43fjik.wl%esq@lawlist.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2a8oml6tk.wl%esq@lawlist.com>

Perhaps my misunderstanding stems from a belief that "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo/FOO" is a bad thing (to have as a result) when `dired-create-files` runs `(setq to (funcall name-constructor from))`.  I was looking at this as a black and white situation -- i.e., `from` is "/Users/HOME/Desktop/FOO"; and, `to` should be "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo".

Because I do not understand the usefulness of "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo/FOO" (when the user had explicitly entered a new name of "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo"), I was expecting `(setq to (funcall name-constructor from))` to return "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo" in this particular situation.

If I am understanding you correctly, you believe that "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo/FOO" is a good thing at this point in the `elisp` code -- to be dealt with further on down when `dired-create-files` does its thing (with the assistance of some C-source code stuff under the hood).

From my layman's perspective (i.e., not a programmer by trade), I was thinking that `(setq to (funcall name-constructor from))` should yield the absolute path of what the user explicitly entered as the new name for the folder or file.  I had assumed, perhaps erroneously, that things would go awry rather quickly if the value of "to" was incorrect at the outset of `dired-create-files`.

Keith

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At Tue, 05 Jan 2016 20:28:21 +0200,
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
>  Dired -- renaming folders/files to CamelCase/UPPERCASE/lowercase.
> 
> > Date:  Tue, 05 Jan 2016 09:27:03 -0800
> > From:  Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
> > Cc:  22300@debbugs.gnu.org,Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
> > 
> > Actually, I'm not sure why the `elisp` makes the target "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo/FOO", instead of just "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo".
> > 
> > When I evaluate
> > 
> >   (funcall (lambda (from) (expand-file-name (file-name-nondirectory from) "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo" )) "/Users/HOME/Desktop/FOO")
> > 
> > I get the former incorrect value -- i.e., "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo/FOO", instead of just "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo".
> 
> Maybe there's some misunderstanding here.  Let me explain why I think
> this is the correct expected result.
> 
> First, (file-name-nondirectory "/Users/HOME/Desktop/FOO") yields
> "FOO", as it should, right?
> 
> Then (expand-file-name "FOO" "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo") returns
> "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo/FOO" because that's what it's supposed to do:
> it returns a file named "FOO" in the directory "/Users/HOME/Desktop/foo".
> 
> Can you tell what in this reasoning seems incorrect, and why?
> 
> > And that becomes the initial value of "to" when used by `dired-create-files` -- (setq to (funcall name-constructor from))
> 
> The code that special-cases MS-Windows and MS-DOS prevents this from
> causing the unexpected results.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-06  3:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-03 20:57 bug#22300: 25.1.50; Dired -- renaming folders/files to CamelCase/UPPERCASE/lowercase Keith David Bershatsky
2016-01-03 21:10 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-04  0:47   ` Drew Adams
2016-01-04  1:11     ` John Wiegley
2016-01-04  1:37       ` Drew Adams
2016-01-04 15:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-04 16:15           ` Drew Adams
2016-01-04 19:22           ` John Wiegley
2016-01-04 19:27             ` Drew Adams
2016-01-04 19:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-04 19:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-04 19:48               ` John Wiegley
2016-01-04 20:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-04 15:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-04  3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-04  4:19 ` Keith David Bershatsky
2016-01-04 15:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-04 17:41 ` Keith David Bershatsky
2016-01-04 19:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-04 19:45 ` Keith David Bershatsky
2016-01-04 20:24   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-04 20:51 ` Keith David Bershatsky
2016-01-05 16:46   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-05 17:27 ` Keith David Bershatsky
2016-01-05 18:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-06  3:56 ` Keith David Bershatsky [this message]
2016-01-06 15:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-06 19:57 ` Keith David Bershatsky
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     [not found]   ` <<a936bee4-3375-45cf-ab35-62e36a21f003@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83vb7973iy.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-01-04 16:14       ` Drew Adams

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