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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 75sm42608944pfj.20.2016.01.19.08.20.41 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Jan 2016 08:20:41 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 9A13C124F6FA0; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 08:20:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y4blbnbx.fsf@wanadoo.es> (=?utf-8?Q?=22=C3=93scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:28:34 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198365 Archived-At: >>>>> =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: >> I'd still love to see a faster, more apropos M-x develop in ELPA, if any= one >> is interested in making that happen. > As Lars said, instrumentalization is required. A demonstrative implementation of this feature can be done without instrumentation. Instrumentation is the "right" way, but is not a necessary way. We shouldn't think core needs to be changed before we can try out a fancier M-x. I'm not against a smarter M-x; I'd like to use it for the same reasons othe= rs have stated (my own completion list right now is massive, slow, and at time= s, confusingly over-populated). --=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2