From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 d0d9f55: Allow newlines inside cl function arglists Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 14:23:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20160509235343.17047.73943@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20160509235343.759D0220128@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <83inyj9j1z.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463088209 30573 80.91.229.3 (12 May 2016 21:23:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 21:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ahyatt@gmail.com, arturmalabarba@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de, larsi@gnus.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 12 23:23:22 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b0y4n-0001Ua-1j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 May 2016 23:23:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59843 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0y4m-0002eN-7D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 May 2016 17:23:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0y4h-0002Zc-Lr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2016 17:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0y4f-0006RR-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2016 17:23:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x241.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::241]:34252) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0y4b-0006Pn-AE; Thu, 12 May 2016 17:23:09 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x241.google.com with SMTP id yl2so6993086pac.1; Thu, 12 May 2016 14:23:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-followup-to:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=kE9cbLW7OPEQFSYdWViMS6JUfUtSQ/RkyRvJUVY6Aso=; b=YhLmxw1q8EWslWz5HMUotU/FDuS5mNubrIjYTNMO/B8454Tl+mJG7gtPfgWfbgwHd8 bwNRqMf3pQhqu9DmZmORHr/tWwYlPYIVxJFRyFQCsj/e2/UHEwG4EGCbPXgWh5vfU3Wi 2IAI34acCBZm5bz2IZk2T9EQMPq/LHeNjtonFtHn6jrl4K0E7RTT0KG7GUtEjnXuRaHa PWac8UfGkcfI/EXefgXEy2+t/cU/FdIA7yMURvYDJEdG9bW8/05J1GhNIoobeH4TUsTo b0YAcCcBITQMXwmAwYRMuZpHGRajck/fDi2MvXAhVjQPuI2IqKZ9ClHznlmBIodXmg2q xXVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-followup-to :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=kE9cbLW7OPEQFSYdWViMS6JUfUtSQ/RkyRvJUVY6Aso=; b=IVdpUhUGHL/btAsus/pFMQF7ta13JUCH5JXy4gCpVltiXc27aGLW4tMZOdDO3ptbeF MUZ2Ko1nn9UNoR4p3JJzRjdafie/L7wXw8uiv3a7SRATbtivWA0NE0pHK7ObZsRWIKXT pPh94qmxXyoJX8ie1fyIPzN7yrXabdgrQXRoct+x0stK1Lxhiifaypu2dsP7WaN++tvR l1MuJecuDIXv84KS2wcCjLMWJPDHO0DaE32frTtztxTiAxKUV5ycQ8kuj1e5lPr5TyyT WGDzNasT7/wbkGOJauDnGXomZR6deBzJAWuAC8ndd4hPpOwSCOrBm0WFaZa2YDiLFIhX QVyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FVWNTsYXG/y+VpUs7KphCb0+l7f5A6smUgtbRo1vxsRyu2EIHp50UcXbHN5wyBZrw== X-Received: by 10.66.118.70 with SMTP id kk6mr17308057pab.74.1463088188483; Thu, 12 May 2016 14:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id to9sm22043359pab.27.2016.05.12.14.23.07 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 May 2016 14:23:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 97F314E71A7; Thu, 12 May 2016 14:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, larsi@gnus.org, ahyatt@gmail.com, arturmalabarba@gmail.com, acm@muc.de In-Reply-To: <83inyj9j1z.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 12 May 2016 22:23:52 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.93 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::241 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203813 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: John Wiegley >>=20 >> I'm wondering if you and some of other core devs would be willing to spe= nd a >> few days scanning through the blocking bugs list[1], to see which ones r= eally >> need to be fixed in the next month, and which can be deferred until late= r? > We'd need clear criteria for nominating blocking bug reports. Could you > publish what you think should be those criteria? Sure, that's a great question. These would be my criteria at this point: A bug should be considered release blocking for 25.1 if: 1. It causes loss of user data. 2. It renders core functionality unusable without any acceptable workarou= nd. This includes: crashing, hanging, runaway memory consumption, exhausti= on of limited resources such as file handles, etc. The extent of "core" is open to debate, but basically I mean features used by a great many users. 3. The presence of the bug makes basic functionality annoying or cumberso= me. 4. The presence of the bug would cause widespread breakage in community packages, unless there is an acceptable upgrade path. 5. It impairs the goals of the Free Software Foundation. In other words, as long as the presence of bug X doesn't make Emacs unsuita= ble for use, I'm willing to live with bug X until the next point release. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJXNPQ5AAoJEMFE2PTxn+YwdrIL+wYV/GWytynunxUY7KUzAYff ibFdAG4DdXNzJJYjx5qnD5driN5S+WYWGxlGuOmxLS9U4KqqxK58e6mMxLubuPpO YYl2iNv1EncJ1J/Ql/1/9yeq6sGWAeQSuNe1Ro70/jbqco0sszJqxApOfqvvaXcg tqDRF0QuwhSPho2ZfgmMIfJ58+4Y98jZdyQT2MHq3grPas19KZKzX/n3E1TBuymE Oj8kkOuqfbdhM14/d/NvctS6nzN4WcaDL16ex53I6TnkcFD/jFBShg9ecOfI7NnH //NLUp5UecV7upi9TRcMKx8ehyOMfKM9HORvwW2h9fMo7hL+dmqg7Tu7FVZbEPKF nl0NjfL1qdx6b7XgVXNTbfG++aiUPNFT7aof4Z8crFWBeA94Uuqwn3bGpOQ283yC 4g2U7FH3aTGZNymE9yHp09cKW6vn4ecXQzmAH8GXH37v7JSIdQTyIihWTLDvti+j zZCr8P1IpOXUZ7XPfCDuXzh13/X4n4Io14mW02b5IQ== =1EZC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--