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[76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r74sm104946077pfl.79.2016.11.30.13.03.48 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:03:48 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0069F46D1CD2; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:03:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Daniel Colascione's message of "Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:14:17 -0800") Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Colascione , Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209834 Archived-At: >>>>> "DC" == Daniel Colascione writes: DC> No. This code isn't disruptive to the Emacs core if it's used, so there's DC> no reason to keep it out of master. Experience with the concurrency branch DC> tells me that interesting work in some feature branch ghetto never DC> actually gets merged. You've only tested this on one platform so far, yes? That alone is reason not to merge it immediately into master. Also, I'd like to see documentation before it goes in, because that's essential to its maintainability. Further, I don't like hearing ultimatums, on either side, over what amounts to an efficiency issue. This matter has already shown that it deserves a little cooling off and further thought. Call it a ghetto if you will, but you've not convinced me that incubating code in branches is a bad idea. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2